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The cross we have on dozens of monuments and buildings? If you are a Christian I don't see an issue with wanting to wear it during service. Just like any religion's iconography could be worn/displayed. It doesn't come up on the ADL's list of hate symbols. I haven't been able to find proof of association with hate groups outside of the political guy having it as a tattoo, a very common and popular tattoo. This is literally just propaganda trying to paint any Christian as a white supremacist.
The ADL is a ZioNazi hate org, no upstanding member of society should ever care what they say.
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2025/01/22/adl-defends-nazi-salutes/
Likewise this is the same government hell bent on Israel slaughtering in the Middle East so they can have their rapture or whatever. There is no doubt this is related to white supremacism/Christian nationalism.
Sure, whatever you say. No doubt in your mind and no proof in your response.
Fuck Christians and their symbology.
I disagree but I'm glad you're permitted to say that.
I appreciate you.
I agree, though I am of the opinion that in secular states (at least at home and in peace time) government officials (including the army) should not wear any religious iconography
Should an Islamic official be permitted to wear hijab like IIhan Omar? What about the camouflage turbans Sikh soldiers wear in the US military? Catholic congress person wearing a crucifix? Jewish congress man wearing a yarmulke?
I would say ideally not as they represent the state and thus should not wear iconography of any sort for secular states.
I also know that this might not be exactly practial in reality
for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest
Id agree
Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc.
Like what?
Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though
In the United States?
I think it shows minority groups they have representation and shouldn't feel shamed for their beliefs. It also helps promote pride in diverse thoughts and backgrounds.
I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices.
However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want.
Do you think they're talking about just a regular cross like you'd see on a church? Because that's not the symbol being discussed here.
No I know the exact cross they are talking about. I can provide plenty of pictures of it all over the country including in buildings in the capital. I haven't been able to find any pictures of hate groups actually using it though. Strictly left wing news articles claiming its a hate symbol, always while slamming that pig hegseth.
First, fuck the ADL. They are so pro-fascism their own logo is now a hate-symbol. Second, the Jerusalem cross on dozens of buildings doesn't sounds like a very significant Christian symbol. It's very contextual. Third, you clearly haven't looked very hard. Fourth, your conclusion is... really stupid. Stop being such a snowflake.
First, I mean sure you can have that opinion. Second, dozens of buildings in the US thousands in the world. Third, provide a picture. Forth, I disagree.