this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2025
83 points (79.9% liked)
World News
38422 readers
642 users here now
News from around the world!
Rules:
-
Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc
-
No NSFW content
-
No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc
founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Lol stay stupid patriot
You're both idiots arguing on the fucking Internet jfc. Step back and look at that exchange, the both of you.
Except one is wrong and the other is not, as it started from the correct fact presented by NimaMag
Yes "facts" presented without source and as an unnamed editorial from a biased source.
Where are you getting this nonsense "most Russian soldiers are volunteers nonsense" given the fact traditionally and currently military service is mandatory and has been officially since like 1986 or so.
Putin has refused to send conscripts to the frontlines since Second Chechnya.
This has remained the case with even the Ukrainians admitting that the Russians generally rely on volunteers and have refused to send conscripts into Ukraine.
So a single editorial video from 8 years ago and a single editorial neither with any sort of source and the second straight up being opinion?
So you have an actual source with first hand knowledge that can speak against Russian drafting and notably the increase in drafting since they decided to invade a sovereign nation?
Also the kyiv independent is.... He's me out here. Independent the Ukrainian stance officially is that they are in large part conscripts.
Can you prove that conscripts are generally being used in Ukraine?
There are some cases where conscripts are used, where they signed combat contracts either voluntarily or without knowing what they signed or during the Kursk incursion. But these are exceptions, not the rule.
In 2022, there were some cases of conscripts being inadvertently or illegally deployed to Ukraine. However, when this was found out, they were withdrawn and returned to Russia. The commanding officers responsible for the deployments were punished.
I don't need to. Their main military is by legislation conscripts. The claimant who said they're mostly volunteer needs to prove that and no a retracted editorial is not a good source.
What's your source dude?
And by law, conscripts are currently prohibited from serving outside the territory of the Russian Federation under any circumstances. Conscripts cannot even participate in peace-keeping missions.
And countries would never break the law right? Certainly not Russia who signed an non aggression agreement with Ukraine in 91 right?
I believe you meant the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. The Budapest Memorandum was first violated by America when they sanctioned Belarus in violation of Article 3 of the Memorandum.
America then stated that the Memorandum was "not legally binding".
Is Ukraine the USA? Last I checked no, no they're not. So the non aggression pact stands, I'm pretty sure it even has a severability clause for participants.
What you're actually saying is that Russia can invade because the USA is shitty? That's a pretty slippery slope bud.