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"Anyone who disagrees with what the state department says isn't a real person"
You guys are in for a very rude awakening
"No u"
Okay so quit repeating state department thought-terminating cliches about the inhumanity of anyone who disagrees with you. At this point you all do it, you all get so defensive, and it's fuckin embarassing. Grow up and have an uncomfortable conversation like an adult.
What state department cliche exactly, be specific. I'll wait.
"People who don't support Ukraine (or simply acknowledge that they're losing) are just Russian bots"
Cringe reddit behavior
No, I called them a bot because they're spouting shit that doesn't make sense if you read literally anything about it and only reply monosyllabic when pushed to explain themselves.
Though I do enjoy that you're upset I would call someone acting like a bot a bot but you have no issue calling me a state department shill simply because you disagree with me. It's very consistent and logical behavior that doesn't at all make you a hypocrite and likely idiot.
That's a lot of words for "I have destroyed my own theory of mind with an all-consuming internet solipsism and am hellbent on making it everyone else's problem."👍
Shills are paid, you're just a useful idiot
Helpful non answer. Explain your argument, I'm betting you can't but I'm also willing to be wrong. To be honest I don't think you have a point but sure let's hear how a conscripted military service isn't relying mainly on conscripts.
Lol yes, because I have eyes and can read and I happen to disagree with you I'm a useful idiot. Prove me wrong then bud, you can't but the contortions you attempt aught to be enjoyable to watch.
Easy the Russian military has been conscripts since like 1986, they have draft legislation. Unless you're saying that doesn't exist then I don't need to. You need to prove that most Russians in Ukraine are volunteers, it's your position you should have a source for it right?
You were given a source elsewhere and just like...freaked out over it. You're not here to argue, you're here to pretend you want to argue
A video from 2015, remind me again when was Ukraine invaded? Oh yeah 2014. Now do we think nothing has changed in a decade of fighting?
Ya dumb.
You acting like a huge angry loser won't change what's true or who's winning🤷♂️
I'm about to go do one of my favorite things (a kratom afternoon bike ride) so let's just cut to the core of all this. I bet you ten actual thousand actual dollars that Ukraine surrenders in 2026
So is that a yes or a no? Hurry, the birds are chirping my name
Lol stay stupid patriot
delusional
You certainly are.
No u
You live in a 9 year-old's fantasy of foreign spies around every corner, probably to make up for feeling unimportant in your actual life
Couldn't explain how I'm wrong huh? Had to find a different thread to try to harass me with your strategic non answer bullshit to feel better about yourself, huh pal?
I think "you're living in a fantasy of imaginary spies" was a fairly straightforward explanation of exactly how you're wrong, consider learning to read
That wasn't you either. It's also not what I meant, prove most Russian soldiers are volunteers. That's the premise.
Didn't say it was me, don't care what you meant
Entirely possible that was also that person though.
True enough.
You chose run away and cry. You're kinda making my point for me.
You're both idiots arguing on the fucking Internet jfc. Step back and look at that exchange, the both of you.
Except one is wrong and the other is not, as it started from the correct fact presented by NimaMag
Yes "facts" presented without source and as an unnamed editorial from a biased source.
Where are you getting this nonsense "most Russian soldiers are volunteers nonsense" given the fact traditionally and currently military service is mandatory and has been officially since like 1986 or so.
Putin has refused to send conscripts to the frontlines since Second Chechnya.
This has remained the case with even the Ukrainians admitting that the Russians generally rely on volunteers and have refused to send conscripts into Ukraine.
So a single editorial video from 8 years ago and a single editorial neither with any sort of source and the second straight up being opinion?
So you have an actual source with first hand knowledge that can speak against Russian drafting and notably the increase in drafting since they decided to invade a sovereign nation?
Also the kyiv independent is.... He's me out here. Independent the Ukrainian stance officially is that they are in large part conscripts.
Can you prove that conscripts are generally being used in Ukraine?
There are some cases where conscripts are used, where they signed combat contracts either voluntarily or without knowing what they signed or during the Kursk incursion. But these are exceptions, not the rule.
In 2022, there were some cases of conscripts being inadvertently or illegally deployed to Ukraine. However, when this was found out, they were withdrawn and returned to Russia. The commanding officers responsible for the deployments were punished.
I don't need to. Their main military is by legislation conscripts. The claimant who said they're mostly volunteer needs to prove that and no a retracted editorial is not a good source.
What's your source dude?
And by law, conscripts are currently prohibited from serving outside the territory of the Russian Federation under any circumstances. Conscripts cannot even participate in peace-keeping missions.
And countries would never break the law right? Certainly not Russia who signed an non aggression agreement with Ukraine in 91 right?
I believe you meant the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. The Budapest Memorandum was first violated by America when they sanctioned Belarus in violation of Article 3 of the Memorandum.
America then stated that the Memorandum was "not legally binding".
Is Ukraine the USA? Last I checked no, no they're not. So the non aggression pact stands, I'm pretty sure it even has a severability clause for participants.
What you're actually saying is that Russia can invade because the USA is shitty? That's a pretty slippery slope bud.
And that makes you what exactly? Move on if you don't like it dude.