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I mean, everyone knew that after the three day special operation became a yearlong war lmao.
But now they're even weaker then they seemed after that. But Russia trying to look bigger then they are is nothing new, I agree.
Selling off the gold reserve is a pretty fucking Desperate Move, yeah. It's not quite "give pistols to 12 year olds" desperate, but it's getting there.
Same ol' Putin, holding a pair while pretending to hold a royal flush and barking until the other side folds.
He doesn't even have a pair.
They now have working weapon industry and their population will work and die as long as required. They are far stronger then they were in 23 or earlier, thier infantry is numerous, can and will do assault operations not caring forthe losses, they have unlimited chinese support when it comes to war, as long as they are at war with the 'west', and their doctrine has adapted to the drone warfare.
Thank you for describing how strong they seem.
Reality is reality, they are capable of sending 700 shaheds and imitators every night, it was 70 two years ago, according to intelligence they are going to surpass 1000 before end of the year.
Thatβs because it is all they have left.
So? They can support their war for a long time, europe, china and india would buy their resources, china would continue to supply them. They are desperate for some kind of victory so they can start preparing for the next war in the earnest. As for all they have left, they are making 'smart' bombs, they are making rockets, tjey are making fuckton of different military hardware.
@nesc @Lemmyoutofhere
What will the banks giving the preferential loans do on the long term?
They will do as they are told by khuilo and his supporters.
@nesc
Yes. And how will they survive that? How does a bank survive handing out billions and billions that it will never see again?
It won't, but nobody cares.
@nesc
It doesn't matter if anyone cares or not.
When all commercial banks go bankrupt, there won't be much anything to call an economy left in the Russia.
Of course they can just print a _lot_ of money to bail out the banks, but then that has the consequences of printing a lot of money.
They can non-care as much as they want, but their economy will die anyway. And then they won't be able to pay their soldiers anymore. At which point it is bye-bye for the Russian occupation.
You are under impression that they are somehow liberal market economy, it's a dying empire with extremely loyal subjects that choosing between food on the table and glorious empire chose the latter 10 times out of 10. And they won't be allowed to collapse completely by bigger european countries, by usa, by china. Essentially everyone roots for fucking r*sia, except those that border them, because it would be inconvenient if that shithole collapses.
@nesc
I know Russians would choose that way.
They choose to live separate from reality.
But once you have no food on the table, you die. When you have no food in the table, it's irrelevant what you choose. The physical reality will start dictating the course of action.
Russians can want all the want. But in the end they'll have to bend to laws of physics.
soviet union existed with ration cards for 40 years and they absolutely adore that abomination.
@nesc
Absolutely, and Russians will be okay with them again.
But, they won't enlist as professional soldiers without a very substantial compensation. Once that becomes economically impossible and they need to fall back to ration cards, they can only get soldiers through conscription. And 70 000 conscripts at the relatively safe front in Afghanistan brought down Soviet Union. The 50% smaller Russia cannot survive 700 000 conscripts at a deadly front.
Afganistan war was deeply unpopular, and there were a lot more people involved and dead then reported, also it wasn't exactly war that brought it down, just one of the many factors. Current war has popular support.
@nesc
Yes.
And the amount of dead in the war the Russia is waging now is dramatically underreported inside the Russia. The same thing :)
But yeah, the amount of real deaths (that we know nowadays, not what USSR told back then) in Soviet Union's war in Afghanistan was 25 000 Soviets plus 60 000 Afghans on the side of USSR.
About 15 times as many Russians have died in this war in 4 years as that one back then in 10 years. And the Russia is half the size now compared to USSR back then.
@nesc
Afghan war was not deeply unpopular during its first 2 or 3 years. On its 10th year it was. Extremely. And now 75 times as many (in proportion) Russians are dying per decade as back then.
There's no way the Russian populace will put up with that if they need to move to conscription.
The Afghan war was too much for them. This is is as big as 75 Afghan wars at once.
The Russia will probably not fall, but they will 100% surely lose their ability to fight a large-scale war such as this.
Short term? If they 'lose' as in freeze the war not on their maximalist terms, yes. If they will get full ukranian capitulation (as it is being forced right now) they will go for another run in 5 years at best.
@nesc
Sorry, I do not understand what you are referring to. "Yes" to what?
Your point about popular uprising.
Maybe watch this video then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jrYlp8VPKs
The point of the video is that the 28 point peace plan is what Russia believes is their best case scenario. So they are from taking Ukraine in three days to they are doing an amazing job if they manage to take the Donbaz. That is really weak.