Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. ~Zappa
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Cool quote, but incorrect.
What is considered a deviation from the norm is HIGHLY subjective, a society where the norm is to embrace new ideas would be the opposite of this quote.
Even a society with norms that are more conservative, progress is being made, though quite slow.
There are also times when norms have been challenged, and ended with disaster, just look at OceanGate's Titan, Stockton Rush deviated from the norms of deep water submersibles, and no progress was made, meanwhile other subs built on existing norms have made a lot of progress
They reused a vehicle with a broken hull 9 times, that's not deviating from the norms it's fucking inanity.
That is absolutely deviating from the norms, to the point of insanity
You're reaching with that word. If I slipped, fell, and cracked my head open you wouldn't say I deviated from the norms of standing.
Ofcourse I am, that is my point, norms are subjective regarding your example it is a technicallity but you could absolutely argue that a guy slipping and falling is deviating from the norms of standing.
Norms are intersubjective—neither purely individual opinions nor mind-independent facts, but rather constituted by shared social understandings. They're "real" in that they genuinely constrain and guide behavior, but they exist only through collective recognition.