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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

And you sound like someone who wants to be able to run red lights without consequences.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

No, I just want traffic lights enforced without being in a surveilance state, but the better solution is just to make more streets illegal to have cars instead of adding lights, and add bus routes instead

But people will be lazy and say eh, surveilance state is good enough for me since Im not affected! More buses. Fewer cars. Fewer lights necessary and fewer surveliance cameras necessary.

[–] Thadrax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

without being in a surveilance state

Those cameras only activate when people run a red light, right? And if they don't, that's the problem that should be fixed, not taking down the whole thing instead. People following the rules and not endanger others is kinda a good thing.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 16 hours ago