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Lieutenant General Christian Freuding fears the longstanding military partnership between the two allies is unravelling under President Trump’s administration

The Pentagon has “cut off contact” between American defence officials and their German counterparts, according to the head of Germany’s army.

The United States has traditionally treated Germany as one of its most important European allies. It is thought to have about 35,000 soldiers stationed at German bases such as Ramstein and Stuttgart, which serve as staging posts for American operations across Africa and the Middle East.

Since President Trump’s return to power in January, the relationship between the countries has become markedly cooler.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Contrary to certain narratives, and while it has some merit, US bases are in said countries at the explicit request of host countries because there is a perceived bigger and more existential threat next door. The host country is basically subcontracting the defense to the United States. Trolls would tell you that these countries were "influenced" or "coerced" to let American troops be stationed. Well, the US is not the one claiming the entirety of South China Sea, or invading Ukraine. South East Asia and EU want US troops to stay because of this. Poland is very US friendly, and so are Taiwan, Vietnam and Philippines. The Philippines elected to kick the American soldiers out 34 years ago, but are now regretting it with the benefit of hindsight due to territorrial dispute in South Chins Sea. Certain actors who push for US withdrawal stand to benefit from it for obvious reasons.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Trolls would tell you that these countries were "influenced" or "coerced" to let American troops be stationed.

Oh please, this is the bullshit propaganda we're all used to on mainstream. US does coerce them internally to have their bases everywhere. Biden even said repeatedly they would have to invent Israel if it wasn't there already. US bases are known to have caused deplorable rapes and crimes across the globe, which are then silenced or swept under the rug by the US. When the citizens complain and want them out, they are silenced by coercing the local governments. But I assume people who don't want racist rapists and criminals in their community are trolls too, right?

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/nx-s1-5035032/sexual-assault-cases-involving-u-s-military-personnel-strain-relations-with-japan

Bootlickers propagandists would tell you that these country specifically request US base to be stationed. Well let's change the subject to china to divert the topic cuz we all hate China here, am I right?

China is threat to south China sea, like US is in Central America. How would you like some Chinese or Russian bases in Cuba, Venezuala, or the Bahamas?

No, you'd fucking cry like a little pussy and embargo them. Oh no, you already do that. So much for countries that want to do what they want, right?

"Do as I say, not as I do."

No surprise there, so don't come with that self-aggrandizing, virtue signalling bullshit about threats and coercing.

One of the "threat" is currently playing out and already committed war crimes near Venezuela. And that isn't China.

You aren't fooling anyone. I'd go back to reddit where this shit flies because US bases just love reddit.

P.S. Fuck Chinese and Russian governments too.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

When the citizens complain and want them out, they are silenced by coercing the local governments.

Do you have a source? American soldiers who commit crimes do get punished. Crimes of individual soldiers does not mean it's institutionalised and sanctioned by American policies. Meanwhile, in South China Sea, Chinese vessels waterhose Vietnamese and Filipino fishermen and not letting other nations to traverse and fish in international waters, and claiming an entire body of water despite being well away from their legal zone.

For these countries, US is a lesser evil. But I have to admit, Trump's shenanigans making these countries decouple from US, which is good.

P.S. Fuck Chinese and Russian governments too

Sure bud. Have a plausible deniability.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Laws are certainly different for american scum than they are for the locals. Consider yourself lucky for not having experienced it, instead of dismissing what anyone who's spent time around those terrorists would tell you.

I'm not even going to bother replying to the rest of your bootlicking, but just ask Greece how willingly they joined NATO.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Do you actually asked locals what they think of Russia and China?

I'm not even going to bother replying to the rest of your bootlicking

Trolls and their unoriginal bad faith tactics of saying "not going to reply" when they know they are backed to a corner. At least you're creative by preemptively pigeon shitting on the chessboard.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The US has over 700 bases in 80 countries. Countries "invite" them in just like countries "willingly" use the dollar for international trade. Its structural dependancy by an imperial power. The British did the same thing 150 years ago.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Although with Trump's shenanigans, US dollar is gradually losing its value.

Many countries consciously outsource defense to the US, so that they could invest in their own people instead. A clear evidence of this attitude is when Spain expressed hesitancy to increase their defense budget. Obama has a point that EU has been "free riding". However, the way Trump makes US allies to "pull their weight" is more coercive than diplomatic.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

The us has all the makings of cancer, it even metastasised.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think rammstein was a capitulation cost wasn't it?

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Rammstein is a cool metal band?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

They are.

As an aside they started doing their videos in Germany with Germans instead of America and they are fuckin beautiful.

Awesome visuals. https://youtu.be/skl6N3zGv-s

I dunno how to put this, uhh well produced sexual innuendo I guess is the best way to put it. https://youtu.be/thJgU9jkdU4