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I guess you wouldn't be wrong to say that sexual abuse of children is challenging and pushes boundaries.
E: see replies.
CSAM has nothing to do with this conversation. Are you lost?
I'm on the fence about the topic, but you've gotta be dense to believe CSAM has nothing to do here. The accusation is one of CSAM, so the argument is whether the scene is CSAM or not.
In a perfect world the question would be simple, but in the reality we live in, you have to consider if the art will be misused - and that's assuming the artist is honest about their intentions in the first place.
Maybe look up why the game was rejected from Steam in the first place.
If that was true, why would the game removing fictional minors for a distinctly unsexual situation not remedy the rejection? Come on now
As like 3000 other comments here have explained, Valve has a zero tolerance policy for what they consider CSAM, meaning they will not reconsider. Which is their prerogative.
The distinction may seem like nitpicking but no, CSAM is a legally defined term of depictions of actual children being sexually abused.
This game does not feature any such content. Not just because there are no depictions of real children, but also because the fictional children depicted aren't subjected to sexual abuse.
Valve's language cites "sexual conduct" which in this case reportedly (I didn't watch it myself) has been stretched to include nudity that is non-sexual in nature.
I get why Valve would err on the side of caution, but that TOS decision is no basis to turn around and make the legally relevant claim that the game features actual CSAM.
CSAM is literally why the game was banned from Steam.