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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 7 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Power tripping on the fediverse is mitigated by various factors though:

  1. Public modlogs (as you said).

  2. Federated structure meaning a deranged moderator team can find themselves replaced by a copycat community on another instance if they're bad enough.

And perhaps I'm a bit naive here, but I'd like to think that no respectable instance admins on the fediverse would allow the brazen behaviour of the r/art team. They'd have long been removed.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Public mod logs I’ve seen been used for flaming users, I’ve yet to see it be used for what it was designed for.

It’s great in theory, but without proper logging or context, people just glance at the logs, see the bans and/pr removals and flames the user. Which is against the rules! If you’re using it for that, just don’t engage, but people would rather try and use it as a gotcha. While missing context 100% of the time.

If you can’t engage the user and need to usr a public log to launch an ad hominem attack instead of trying to engage the topic, you’re the issue with Lemmy. And this is what the logs are used for unfortunately.

And as stated, the fact that a mod can just encore stuff out of spite (happens) and they don’t even need to provide a reason, or a notice to the user. So they don’t even know they goofed most times.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I run my own instance. I'm the only Admin, I'm the only Mod, I'm the only user. I "ban" people daily. Of course it doesn't actually do anything but It's fun it just feels more gratifying than just blocking someone.

But yeah I'd never allow people to sign up for my instance, I don't have the time nor desire to admin people and mods.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

In this situation I specifically mean instances designed for other people to use. Not private-use instances like yours. Although if your instance (ie: you) behaved badly enough, and notably so - you'd just end up getting defederated.

[–] Lenna@piefed.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That is indeed true. Only issue I can see is the copycat community might not outgrow the older community. And I think people tend to gravitate towards the larger community if there are multiples of them. Especially newer users who won't know of the power tripping mods and will just assume it's an ordinary community. But let's hope new users joining the Fediverse have better critical thinking skills and start asking questions if they see a community with a strong and active copycat community.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago

That is indeed true. Only issue I can see is the copycat community might not outgrow the older community. And I think people tend to gravitate towards the larger community if there are multiples of them.

Thankfully the Fediverse designates community size by active users per week/month/etc when you look them up. Piefed specifically does this. You can't even see the overall subscribers in the community browser. So this levels the playing field somewhat.