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Oh my, a degree in history and yet you still refuse to even acknowledge the Senate and don't seem to be willing to define "democracy". You must know that if you dig into either of those questions you'll be lost without a map trying to justify a definition of democracy that does not grant every person the same voting power.
I'm not sure why you feel the Senate is somehow the lone proof of the Founding Father's "secret tricks," that's a pretty weird hill to die on. And I wasn't aware that I was expected to define Democracy. I could easily do that, with a simple definition of "electing one's own leaders," but I'm sure you wouldn't accept that definition, nor literally any other definition I would offer, including verbatim quotes from accepted dictionaries.
This forum has an agenda, and I understand that, but it's too bad that real debate isn't allowed here, just bad-faith confirmation bias. You should start with the new Ken Burns documentary on the American Revolution, which did not flinch from acknowledging many of the contradictions of the Founding Fathers, while still acknowledging the overwhelming influence that the American Revolution, and the Constitution, had on every future government of the next 250 year. It is a fact that while America is a very flawed system, it has still had an overall positive effect on the world. Without the inspiration of the American Revolution and the Constitution, this planet would still be bogged down in monarchal governmental systems in which nearly every human is literally a slave to their King. If you live in a "free" country, and elect your own leaders, you can thank America for bringing that system to world.
As flawed as America is, they changed the world for the better, whether the people in this forum want to believe it or not.
I don't feel it's the lone proof and nothing I've said would suggest that - I simply want you to respond to the critiques of the constitution which you have so far largely avoided. If you define democracy as electing one's own leaders, tell me about the electoral college. That's an institution that is very easy to understand as a handbrake on democracy - I'm sure even you can suss that one out if you spend a little time thinking about it. Work through that one and let me know how it's democratic.
We'd love to debate you if you would actually address the critiques, but you won't. Is it because your undergrad degree was a participation trophy? Is it because you know you can't do it? Hard to say.
You still didn't address the Senate at all. This is why I keep bringing it up. You refuse to address it. We can move on to the electoral college afterwards and even more explicit obvious anti-democratic levers the founders chose, but until then it's remedial debate with a guy who claims to want to debate but continues to be terrified of actually doing it.
If you're not a teenager you should probably feel deeply embarrassed and just delete all of this and maybe rethink your life.