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⚠️ [Important] Ukrainians should AVOID USING Telegram. There is big evidence that Telegram is linked to the FSB ⚠️ (www.occrp.org)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by vanidian1@lemmy.world to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
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Ukrainians are some of the bravest people I know.

To the extent that you can, do not use Telegram. Telegram is owned by a single person. This man is a fucking liar.

https://istories.media/en/news/2024/08/27/pavel-durov-has-visited-russia-more-than-50-times-since-his-exile-in-2014/

Telegram infrastructure is linked to the FSB.

https://www.occrp.org/en/investigation/telegram-the-fsb-and-the-man-in-the-middle

Signal is more secure and owned by a nonprofit. The founder of Signal is a professional cryptographer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike

Signal delivers end-to-end encryption by default and collects almost no data.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

it got big in people's minds earlier. my experience over the last 5 years has been that the only people still using telegram are fascists and cishet eastern europeans. queer folks in eastern europe mostly moved to signal (again. this is my experience. it's purely anecdotal)

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the vr pirates that crack the games I want to try only use telegram.. So I have to use it to get their releases, but they prob fit the categories you listed...

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

nah for sure. there's a lot that goes on on telegram. just don't put anything that incriminates you on it

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

All my weed dealers use it where I am, so I think of it only as a drug app.

[–] Arkthos@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And furries. For some reason furries are all over telegram.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

noted! wonder why they're not on signal? seems like with how common queer identities are in the furry community there'd be more desire to avoid a platform with russian ties