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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

(Edited to be slightly less drunkenly angry)

Executive authority in the Reich derived directly from Hitler's decrees. They superseded existing laws and thereby explicitly authorized the holocaust. This feels very much like you are using "As far as I know" as a way to cloak the uncertainty that arises from never having actually engaged with the topic directly, and it makes me wonder why you felt the need to contribute to this.

What you knew was wrong, and being so unfamiliar with the topic that you are unaware Nazi germany was a dictatorship (or the mechanisms of how legality works in a dictatorship) should probably serve to discourage you from being a further nazi apologist (I suspect unintentionally)

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Wanna elaborate on how that comment is in any way "nazi apologist"? Especially when its accuracy entirely depends on whether you define a dictator as the law or someone for whom the law doesn't matter. I just can't see how "the nazis broke german laws with what they did" could be considered favourable to the nazis, and by extension, why you feel like it's your place to tell anyone how they should be posting.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago) (1 children)

It inherently presents the Nazis as somehow illegitimate, having hijacked their way into power against the established norms of the country and that they were somehow simply ignoring those established rules. The classic whitewashing of "They were so evil they even broke their own laws!!1!".

This is blatantly not true - the Reich was absolutely a legitimate governing body, recognized by damn near the entire world, even hosting the Olympics, and their executive structure was no less legally legitimate than any other in the world. They were, by the time of the holocaust, a dictatorship. This is how legality in dictatorships works. Internally what they did was completely legal, and even their actions would have been illegal under the prior laws, they very legally superseded those laws.

It's the same sort of bullshit apologia as the "the average German citizen didn't know about the holocaust!" thing - it's just not true, but it's repeated by the modern-day neonazi propagandists so much that people truly believe it.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

I still don't see how that appologizes for or whitewashes anything they did and makes them look better. Or how their legitimacy plays into this (which is really just a legal concept used to suppress or generate opposition).

Sounds more like appologizing for everyone else than for the nazis themselves.

Though the main takeaway I got from the comment is that the words of the laws didn't matter because no one stopped them when they went against them.