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[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And when they pull out of Europe because they won't comply?

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Write your own E2E encrypted peer-to-peer chat app (nobody has got time for that) or use some that doesn't care about the law (pretty risky if it's not open source, I doubt they'll survive for long in the open), I guess

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I dont see fdroid blocking the app. I think signal is in the guardian project repos. Anyway a repo can just be hosted in switzerland or on tor or something. I would be more worried about govenments blocking access to the signal servers.

All this theatre in the name of protecting kids, Yet the pedo formally known as prince andrew is still walking free.

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

won't help when their servers block access from EU

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

Doubt it. Tourists are free to use signal and travel to EU.

More like EU would block Signal servers, but I doubt thst too.

[–] dontblink@feddit.it 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Xmpp, IRC, Matrix, all great decentralized alternatives, but good luck convincing people in contacting you on Xmpp...

This problem is a problem because it's a social tendency, not because we don't have alternatives.. Very sadly...

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

This is definitely the biggest barrier. I'm not sure what the proper solution is. Probably needs government backing.

Ive convinced a decent chunk of my friends to message me on Signal by simply being unresponsive on WhatsApp lol. It's much harder to get people to use Matrix instead of Discord though...

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

XMPP is great but my wife hates it.

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Hi Sorry can i ask what Is XMPP?

Btw as a secure messgaing app i use simplex, mabye i Will look into matrix

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It’s an open, decentralized protocol used for real-time messaging, so you can find many apps using this protocol, on android there is conversations which is very light and modern, just choose a pseudo and chat, no other registration, it is a paid app on the app store but free on fdroid. I also used simplex before but it didn't work well enough, the video calls were laggy.

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

So XMPP is a messgaing protocol some apps use

Ty very much

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What client do you suggest? I know It depends on the situation, but overall generally what would you suggest?

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As I said as a client I suggest *conversations" on android to download from fdroid to get the free version.

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago
[–] bjrn@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago

Or Molly (alternative and more secure FOSS Android app for Signal), or Session or SimpleX.

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Ita not said they wont comply with eh standards