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Yeah, I totally agree. Still a knob though. He gave us an example he wrote of a good paper that answered the question that was even shorter (he is literally a world expert who wrote a decent chunk of the IAIA best practices documentation, it's not that he doesn't know what he's doing) and all I could think while reading it was "I'm an undergrad. If I provided so few references on a paper in most of my units I would be pulled up on academic integrity. I'm not allowed to Just Say Stuff like you."
Presumably he didn't expect us to outdo what he did but I would have been very uncomfortable submitting it, it felt very, very under sourced.
Yes, totally. I went back to school after a few years of fulltime work, and they're different fields. You can't (well, probably better to say shouldn't) anticipate the working environment and enforce those requirements within the academic one because you're held to different standards. He's right in that ministers will only read the cover brief, if that, but he's wrong in implying that it's an acceptable yardstick while at school. Plus not everyone is going to graduate and write for government.
I mean, I'm sure that it's pretty much universal that you don't need to be anywhere near as anal about sourcing anywhere outside an academic context. It's still asking a lot of students to expect them to write something to that different standard with no training on how to do so - it was just a different expectation for that one unit. It was tough enough for me as a mature student in my 40s since I had just spent several years having it hammered into my head that every single idea I present must be supported by a reputable source or it's an ethical violation and I can get in trouble. Can't imagine how much tougher it would be for kids straight out of school.
(sorry undeleted my comment after i saw your reply)