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Okay so banger insight I got from here:

material conditions reign supreme as the foundation of any meaningful program or political convo. This type of analysis cuts laserlike through vast clouds of fluffy, worthless, marketplace of ideas grift style vvvvibes-based "idealistic" baloney.

However.

Vibes, also, are a thing. Often enough vibes become material conditions. People fight, work, organize, sacrifice and die for Vibes. Non material elements can rally support around a material cause.

What are good ways to think about the relationship between material conditions and.. idealism, pure "politics", lofty rhetoric, untethered wishful thinking... vibes. I'm hoping some well-read comrade will bless us with thought or maybe a reading rec

I love you all lea-finger-guns

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So there's a careful line to draw to avoid the old trip line that is a mechanistic view of Marxism-Leninism, which is that the material base is all that matters while human consciousness and collective social consciousness are ephemeral substances that do not impact the world. The material base does significantly impact human and social consciousness and indeed greatly shapes them based upon the image itself is based upon, but, the free will of humanity when it is sufficiently strong enough can reshape the material conditions it exists under and thus transforms the system that shapes the collective.

A simple interpretation of this is that the State is one of the strongest forms of collective social consciousness that exists. It is influenced and shaped by the material conditions that give rise to it, but by the power invested into it by the masses can wield that power to shape and reshape the material conditions as it so sees fit. Which is why it is important to identify to which class does the State belong to in order to gain context for which it uses its power.

An example of this is that the Trump government is controlled by reactionaries, pro-protectionist capitalists, fascists, etc. The state under their control reshapes the material conditions of the base by levying tariffs while cutting regulations and taxes for the capitalist camp that controls the levers of power currently. The base has been reshaped, or more appropriately, hollowed out by the capitalist vermin pillaging the copper wires from the walls, and therefore shapes the superstructure by creating precarious and tumultuous economic conditions for the working class that's decaying their standards of living therefore growing their consciousness towards reality.

Which is where the communists come in with creating a dual power system that accumulates enough power to act like a state to reshape the economic base towards socialism. Because if we do not organize and help lead towards a fundamental change to the base, then the reactionaries will take the social space and direct the masses into making a feedback loop that repeats the cycle until the system shatters and we're all thrown into barbarism.