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The advanced S-400 ‘Triumf’ air-defence system was destroyed in a joint operation by Kyiv’s security service and navy, Ukrainian intelligence sources said The attack off the coast of Yevpatoriya was orchestrated through the aerial drones and Neptune domestic missiles, Ukrainian official Anton Gerashchenko said

Ukraine used drones and missiles to take down an advanced Russian air-defence system worth US$1.2 billion early on Thursday, according to multiple reports.

The advanced S-400 “Triumf” air-defence system was destroyed in a joint operation by Kyiv’s security service (SBU) and navy, the BBC and Reuters reported, citing Ukrainian intelligence sources.

The attack off the coast of Yevpatoriya was orchestrated through the use of aerial drones and Neptune domestic missiles, per Anton Gerashchenko, a Ukrainian official writing on Telegram.

Yevpatoriya is a coastal city in the west of occupied Crimea, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

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[-] Danc4498@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Seems too obvious, though. What protections do other air defense systems use?

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

They keep a reserve of missiles for defense instead of blowing their load on likely decoys.

[-] Intralexical@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Ideally you duct-tape a grenade to each of your "decoys" so it doesn't really matter either way which target they choose to prioritize

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See drones that cheap make everything harder, but you don't shoot them down if you know your enemy has a serious cruise missile capability in reserve.

Hard math though, hide your position or stop incoming.

[-] melonlord@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Paper and paper derivatives. Like cardboard.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

NATO have really good threat analysis so they'd try to target the drones with turret machine guns, small rockets, or air defence drones and leave the big boys sitting ready for larger and faster moving attacks.

Practically though a conflict between major powers would quickly turn into a production race to see who can turn out the most drones

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know what size of drones we are talking about but Australia is sending cardboard drones to Ukraine.

Cardboard drones that have a range of 100km with a 3kg payload.

I feel like cheap done and internet access really changed the way war is done.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

That makes a lot of sense especially if they're essentially loitering munitions, just need a bunker full of operators and you can stick a whole cloud of them in the sky so once an operator has exploded one drone there's another just coming into range of the battlefield...

Plus you could probably make so many cardboard drones that just flying then randomly over Russian controlled ground will draw fire from air defense and waste ammo, they should make a super simple one that just flies in the direction of the Kremlin until it gets shot down, could cut out most the electronics and if they're released from a mothership already high up then the motor could be super simple too.

War really has changed a lot, and the scary thing is it's only going to keep changing

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