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All the treats that capitalism gives you shall turn to ashes in your mouth.
This is literally the opposite of capitalism. Capitalism would be to cover up the issue, and hope nothing to bad happens, so you can keep raking in profits.
No capitalist company is ever going to voluntarily recall a product. Recalls happen because they are legally forced onto companies.
The problem that caused it, dear. The treat that is unlimited cheap fast air travel.
Yeah that's not really the case here.
This issue is a potential data corruption issue caused by "intense solar radiation". You know, from the the massive solar storm recently that caused the aurora to be visible much further south than normal. Intense solar activity causes corruption issues like this with computers all the time. Most of the time, it's mitigated by various systems that verify and check for corruption automatically, most servers use error correcting memory for instance, but nothing is perfect and strong solar storms are unpredictable.
The fix is reinstalling the software to ensure it's not corrupted. For most of the planes it's going to be an overnight fix. The issue will be the planes that aren't at large hub airports with full maintenance and support systems.
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Yes, recognizing problems means I'm literally incapable of fun or positive emotions. The laughter of children causes me terrible pain.
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It’s not though. Airbus understands that their best move for continued market dominance is to be safer than Boeing. Grounding their planes for a software update to prevent a demonstrable problem is in line with their capitalist goals.
It’s not like Airbus is a worker-owned business. They’re definitely still capitalist and working for the good of their stakeholders. They just remember that making a good product and standing by it, serving their customers well, is important. Like Boeing before the McDonnell-Douglas merger.
Yeah I think Boeing's recent history pretty objectively and undeniably proves that manufacturers don't incorporate safety because they want to. They do it because they have too, and if they think they can get away with skimping on it, they do.
If what you're saying were true, then there should be no need for any safer rules and regulations in industry, as profit incentive should drive companies to just make their products safe by themselves. Which is, pretty objectively and historically demonstrable to be completely untrue.
That’s absolutely not what I’m saying. Air travel needs regulation, it is as safe as it is because of regulation. But regulated capitalism is still capitalism.
Airbus did this because it is good for them, whether that’s to avoid future lawsuits, or to have a better safety record, or both, or other reasons entirely.
Something isn’t “literally the opposite of capitalism,” as you put it, just because it isn’t evil.
Except, Airbus fixing this has fuck all to do with capitalism. They are legally mandated too. If it was Worker owned, they'd still fix it. If they were state owned, they'd still fix it. If anything, the actual forces and incentives that are inherent to capitalism, and not just existing alongside and in opposition to it, would drive them to not fix it.
Fixing it has literally nothing whatsoever to do with Airbus being capitalist or profit driven.
Just because something happened in a capitalist system doesn't mean it happened because of the capitalist system. That's kind of like saying capitalism caused workers rights, because companies nowadays have an incentive to not get sued for worker rights violations, which is obviously nonsense.
So hang on, what are you saying is “literally the opposite of capitalism” then? Regulation? Does that mean regulatory bodies are Marxist? Are the Republicans correct?
(Hint: Republicans are essentially never correct.)
I think I understand what you’re trying to say, but all I’m saying is that this isn’t “literally the opposite of capitalism.” Regulation specifically within a capitalist system functions by going after money and market access. If Airbus doesn’t follow regulations, they don’t get to sell their products in those markets. They pay fines and lawsuits. Those motivators are part of capitalism.
I was mistaken to claim this was Airbus acting for their best interests with regard to their safety reputation. I hadn’t seen that they were ordered by the EU Aviation Safety Agency to make this change. But that is still not “literally the opposite of capitalism.”
I was referring to the effect being opposite of the effect that would have been motivated by capitalism.
This is a single company making a decision. It is neither capitalism nor socialism nor any other economic system, because it's not a system. It's one company making one decision. I just assumed that was obvious from context.
And my point was that this decision is quite literally the opposite of the decision that capitalist incentives would drive the company towards.
And yes, government regulations could accurately be described as the opposite, or in direct opposition to, free market capitalism.