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Yeah, I get it. They wouldn't even be negotiating if they didn't feel they absolutely had to. They wanted it all, and they've pissed away so much for the hubris of an overpromoted, black hearted ghoul's delusions of imperial glory. They have to make peace on some kind of relatively favorable terms before Trump croaks, that fuels so much of their obvious desperation and sudden willingness to "negotiate". If you can even call it that. Russia's tradition of diplomacy is to ask for ludicrous, maximalist terms, and assume feckless pussies on the other side will eventually cave and give you something, because....blah blah blah something about the sanctity of human life.
It's just so incredibly obvious how big a fuck up this has been, and now what does Ukraine do? What is the smart strategic deicsion. In a sense - you've already won by suriving with as little territory lost as could reasonably be expected based on the landscape at the start of the war. But - a temporary ceasefire isn't a long term peace. You want Russia to fuck off, forever, and to not be able to menace you again. Hopefully, crumbling internally into a post-Putin ethno-corporate warlord era with petty fueds fighting each other instead of invading Ukraine for the bazillionth time in history.
I dunno. If I'm Ukraine, I ride this out, keep bleeding the Russians and wait for better terms. Let Trump rage. At this point, they can probably resist without U.S. aid. Both Europe and Ukraine deserve better terms than are on offer.
Wasn't there a map, leaked from the CCP documents, that showed China owning a significant portion of eastern russia, recently?
I haven't heard of this, I really wana see it now though lol