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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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KDE Going all-in on a Wayland future (blogs.kde.org)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by ashleythorne@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39342270

Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.

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[–] tux0r@feddit.org -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, most Unices don't even have Wayland.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Most Unices" haven't been relevant for a decade or more. At this point it's really just Linux, OS X, Android (to the extent it counts as a Unix), and BSD as an also-ran. Obviously OS X and Android don't care about Wayland or X11 to begin with, so all you're really saying is that BSD is getting left behind.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Which isn't true, at least one of them has Wayland support already, the rest is following suit.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My brother in arms, given Linux’s desktop market share (which is where KDE is used), Linux is the also-ran in your list. For the point I have made, however, market share is not really relevant. Unices don’t stop becoming Unix just because of how many people use them.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The point is, nobody gives a shit about Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, etc. anymore and your argument is stupid.

Every Unix or Unix-like OS that matters in 2025 is either switching from X11 to Wayland or never used X11 to begin with.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“Nobody”. I see. Please try to leave your bubble every now and then. There are quite a few people (including me) who still need those systems, and it is rather disappointing to see that they are left behind without a good reason.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's proprietary shit. If it's being left behind, blame the megacorp that makes it, not Linux devs.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

Solaris (“illumos”) is not proprietary anymore. Actually, it is the only free SysV UNIX in the world.