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Man who gets winded climbing stairs describes plan to repel home invasion
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this post was submitted on 26 Nov 2025
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Firearms are the great equalizer.
Yeah it equalizes your chances of killing your family by mistake to roughly the same as a home invader killing them.
It's more dangerous to have a swimming pool.
Truth. The day my swimming pool started packing was the day I left home.
This is really only close to true statistically if you're under 4, thank fuck America isn't shooting many toddlers yet (but the number isn't zero). There are about 1200 deaths a year in domestic pools in the US and 46000 gun deaths.
A) you're way off...3500-4000 drown in the USA a year. We'll call that accidents.
B) accidental gun deaths per year are around 450-500...
You wanna do statics, do them right and stop making shit up. Your anti-gun propaganda you drink has always had to make shit up to get people to believe their crap. No having a firearm in your home is not magically more deadly than owning a pool. Period.
Yeesh. Another gun-clutcher.
Drowning deaths in America includes every kind of drowning death, and so lake and boating and surfing and oil rig and commercial fishing accidents pump that number up.
Hypocrisy is fun. And the word is statistics.
Yesh another anti gun nut who thinks that we should disarm ourselves while we have fascist in power...
See my other comment as well to your other points.
OK rambo, how many fascists have you shot so far...
Yes because that's what you go right to. Shooting people and potentially starting a civil war. Glad you're anti-gun...cause you clearly seem to be off.
The fun thing about statistics is they dont apply to single individuals.
A) includes drownings in bathtubs an natural water (where majority of drownings happen) B) so people who died to domestic violence or suicide are safe are they?
"You wanna do statics, do them right and stop making shit up."
Source for majority of drowning deaths non-pool related: https://www.statista.com/chart/34873/rates-of-unintentional-drowning-deaths-and-drowning-locations/?srsltid=AfmBOoreeroH378wf2OA0D3nU9ZbuMfzFgmO1VcicvcFUwRF2G1scUA_
Source for actual total gun deaths, because danger doesn't just mean accidents: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/
Suicide isn't an accident and neither is domestic violence. You don't accidentally off yourself and you can't accidentally have domestic violence. You also can't suicide via water either...well not without a ton of work.
You're bullshit stat is about how having a gun magically makes you more likely to be a victim of gun violence, which is not correct.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/160/10/929/140858
Why do you keep talking about "magic" and "accidents". Just because you don't want deadly weapons to be a risk factor doesn't mean that they aren't. It's just a fact. And an obvious and intuitive one at that.
Because the point is that drowning is mainly via an accident. You don't accidentally suicide yourself. And your link is really "no shit" stats. You can't kill yourself and be in the "suicide with a firearm" if you don't use a fucking firearm. These are "water is wet" stats that are pointless.
And yet you keep claiming water isn't wet.
Naa I'm claiming that you're suggesting that it's a monsoon when it's more like a mist.
And for the record I'm not suggesting anything. I'm giving you facts and sources. Which you respond to with nothing more than a dismissal of avoidable death and violence as not important. It's pretty weird honestly.
I gave facts, you provided a survey.
Peer reviewed journals articles are not "a survey". That's the highest standard of proof we have. You're been repeatedly demonstrated false and just stick your head in the sand. I'm out as that this point seems like bad faith argument.
Tell that to the 46000 victims a year Alex Jones.
Of which 2/3rds are suicides...which would be preventable if we had single payer in this country, but instead of using the political capital on that, the anti-2a groups burn it on a topic that doesn't have nearly the support that they think it does.
False dichotomy
Says the guy who's entire argument is from anti-2a propaganda...
https://poolfence.com/are-guns-more-dangerous-than-your-pool/
Yeah, obviously a company that sells pool safety products wants to emphasise pool safety (and I'm not trying to say pools aren't dangerous BTW)
The risks of shooting your family with a swimming pool are amazingly small though.
I drown by gunfire every day.
I'm not talking about swimming pools I'm talking about the risks of shooting your family while trying to protect them being larger then the infinitesimal chance that you might John Wick some home invaders and save the day.
It's more dangerous to be moron.
I remember now that this BS comes from freakonomics. The irony of that bastion of "contrarian thought" is that so many people seem to have lost their ability to think critically while reading it.
Only if you know how to use them and practice regularly. And even then ...
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