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but also if you play Byzantium you're going to make no money and every playthrough on the same day on the same year you'll get fucked by an earthquake and various other events that constantly fire and lose you money

cool story guys, what the fuck is wrong with them?

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[–] LupineTroubles@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Would you have more fun if there were no obstacles?

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

also nerd the point is the hypocrisy with "we have an ideological opposition to railroading you so good bye mission trees" and "i'm sorry you have to either pay so much money you'll be in debt until 2025 or say hello to your civil war" on a guaranteed date in every single fucking playthrough

[–] LupineTroubles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think there is any hypocrisy between straddling Byzantium with debt and representing their misfortunes at the time like the Earthquake in Gallipoli or repeated civil wars with events so you have to react to them and navigate them within game mechanics and the game rewarding you doing exact same steps in exact same order with rewards that bypass game mechanics and give you bunch of free stuff so you can take everything easily once you survive the first few years.

Besides Byzantium is favorite country if every deus vulting GSG fan so they get the first DLC anyway above and before many other countries and regions both ascendant and troubled at this time so complaining about them specifically is silly too. We will likely see them given silly amount of momentum for recovery that they compete with Ottomans on expansion into Balkans and Anatolia soon enough.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"there's no difference between no obstacles and a brick wall of obstacles grinding your nuts off"

when the game gives you a bunch of random good events (in one out of literally 15 playthroughs) and it's still not enough to avoid a pretender rebellion firing right before you can war dec the ottomans without going to -50 stability and fucking yourself further and then afterwards you're left with <90% of your strength while the Ottomans get their shit rocked in a war with genoa and recover from on par with you to 20x stronger than you within two years with genoa as a vassal I'm just gonna say fuck the eu5 devs and fuck you too if you wanna be a reddit argument lord about how I should actually be having so much fun with that

[–] LupineTroubles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

That's right little Byzantium you are in Ottoman country now, enjoy the earthquakes.