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Does it make sense to use --show-error by itself in curl (lemy.lol)

submitted 3 weeks ago by QuazarOmega@lemy.lol to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I was trying to read up on it and just based off of the manual it seems not to make sense if I'm not using --silent alongside it, but I found this one article stating otherwise: https://nrogap.medium.com/show-error-response-for-curl-64666cd64330

I can't figure out if it's just AI slop or badly researched since it doesn't even show a real URL to test the commands against.

Manual entry:


       -S, --show-error
              When used with  -s,  --silent,  it
              makes  curl  show an error message
              if it fails.

              This option is global and does not
              need  to be specified for each use
              of -:, --next.

              Providing -S, --show-error  multi‐
              ple  times  has  no  extra effect.
              Disable it again  with  --no-show-
              error.

              Example:
               curl --show-error --silent https://
example.com

              See also --no-progress-meter.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I couldn't find an endpoint to test this with, picking out a random inexistent domain I could just see that without parameters I get the errors, with silent I get none, with show-error I get the same output as no parameters, with both I get the same output as no parameters again.
This is as far as I can get without reading into the source code, I already searched on the internet with no luck because all others posts I could find assume it is paired with another parameter

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So based on both the man page and your findings, it’s safe to assume that the medium article is wrong.

We both see different behavior than what it suggests and that behavior is in alignment with a different, trustworthy source of documentation!

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, at this point I'd say it's safe to assume that

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Over the past five or so years I’ve been regressing my own linux problem solving and question answering process back to a combination of first party documentation and directly observed results.

It’s been a long strange trip, but I think the days of being able to “just google it” are officially over.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's usually more efficient for more niche topics.
Luckily many things still come up with searches, be it stackoverflow or other kinds of forums, the real problem are the SEO spam articles and AI generated stuff (and worse still when they coexist), so it's becoming harder to discern what is worthwhile and what isn't. When all else fails I also always try to find my answers by playing around myself

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://httpbin.org/

But yeah I think that medium article is just wrong. Medium is not a trustworthy source for anything, because it's just a slop monetization platform.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think so too, but I wanted a confirmation. I tried that website as well, but with it I could only get error messages if I also provide --fail to error on HTTP error codes