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the cracks on maga are widening, Boebert also showing some distance, two of the most coocoo nonetheless
I'm not surprised that the women are the first to be pushed out by MAGA.
How reductive of you.
These congressional representatives made the active choice to pull away from MAGA and make decisions that benefited their constituents.
Leadership did not appreciate that, which is to be expected. Republican establishment has generally reacted poorly when party members don't toe the line. The only exceptions are long standing members or those in difficult districts to hold. These representatives are in Republican dominant districts, so they aren't expected to need to compromise to retain the seat.
I don't think them being women has much of anything to do with how their colleagues responded to them distancing themselves from MAGA
What made them pull away from MAGA? Would it happen to be issues that impact women more than men? Everything becomes a loyalty test to authoritarians, it just happens to start with the fringe groups. The minorities within their own ranks. Women happen to be just that.
Nice job moving your goal posts.
You did not claim they "pulled away" from MAGA. You claimed they were "pushed out" and implied this was because they were women.
One gives them agency the other reduces them down to their biological sex.
I do hope they made the choice to pull away realizing how bad these policies are for women.
Both things are happening. I'm not moving any goal posts, you're just trying to catch me on something I said in a comment because you're stuck on semantics and needing to be right. But I'm not arguing against what you're saying. I also hope more pull away. I hope as many people as possible abandon MAGA.
I'm trying to say there's part of the MAGA base actively pushing women out. People talking about abolishing women's suffrage, larping as trad-wives and generally doing everything they can to treat women like objects and not people. These things push women away.
Other conservative women see these things and also willingly pull away from MAGA. Both things can happen. Some people in the maga movement absolutely are reducing women to just their biological sex. But don't get mad at me for it, I'm just trying to talk about it.
That's not what you said. Your initial comment implied that it was solely due to their sex.
Truthfully now that you've fleshed it out I mostly agree but your original comment did not represent this position.
One disagreement though
That's not what we were talking about. And the first part of the statement is obvious. Yes MAGA is misogynist, you'll hear no disagreement from me there.
In the case of the two representatives they're being pushed out for their views. You could convince me their sex made it easier for MAGA to turn on them once they disagree though. But Republicans in general have been very good at keeping their party in line and have a history of ostracizing party members who dissent
Yea I'm done, sorry but I don't care enough to continue this conversation seriously. You're inferring so freaking much from so little, It's not worth my time or mental energy anymore.
Truthfully i thought we were getting to a decent resolution.
Trust me it's not you personally. It's later In the day for me, and the notifications from your reply caught me after I'm already a few drinks deep, so I don't mean any offense, I just literally can't process all that right now. I'm sorry for sounding like a jerk. You don't deserve that.
How reactive of you.
Yes the facts are reactive aren't they?
Facts are relative.
I suppose that is how the Republicans like to treat them
Objectively, facts are subjectively interpreted.
Also they ain’t no men MAGAts making a fuss about Epstein in front of the cameras. Where’s your reduction now?
My dude what are you talking about?
My point was Boebert and Greene were being pushed out due to their position not their sex.
Obviously the ones toeing the party line aren't being pushed out. Either way fuck those guys, but that's not what we were discussing
I thought you were thoroughly dismissing the notion that the fact BoeBoe and Greede were taking unpopular (in MAGAland) positions had nothing to do with them being women.
And the earlier comments suggesting that often women are the first to dissent and be cast out for it. If that’s not the case here, where are the MAGA men who are not packed tightly into trump’s bunghole?