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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Gotta separate the art from the artist I guess, all his linguistic contributions and books like Manufacturing Consent are good and likely created long before he started consorting with Epstein. I've probably read more of his linguistics stuff than his political, he made a lot of genuinely important contributions to the field, and he's no Parenti or Marx or even Finkelstein.

[–] Mihr@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t mean to do the thing where we’re like “oh actually I always hated the guy” but Edward Herman wrote most of Manufacturing Consent. Even Chomsky says as much.

Just want to properly credit Edward Herman is all.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

Good point, good point

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

It's pretty wild reading all the emails, Epstein is so casually connected to so many people I've heard of.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The double meaning of consent is really brutal here when you attempt to do a separate art from artist.


I got into Chomsky from the linguistics side first too but tbh that's probably even closer to Epstein.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got into Chomsky from the linguistics side first too but tbh that's probably even closer to Epstein.

True, true, Epstein probably wasn't very interested in socialism lol, and was more "intellectual". Chomsky was working on linguistics before Epstein was even an adult though, Chomsky is damn old.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Epstein was collecting MIT professors.

Yeah I don't think Epstein influenced anyones academic work really.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

gotta catch 'em all