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[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 71 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the sound of the "liberal-dissident" class, so insulated, so smug, that it cannot see the demon sitting right across the table from it, so long as the demon can talk about linguistics.

Look at what he praises! He says Epstein gave him a "most valuable experience". Valuable for what? For learning about the "intricacies of the global financial system". He doesn't ask how Epstein got this "intimate knowledge". He doesn't ask who this financial system crushes. No, he's just fascinated by the "arcane world of finance". It's an academic puzzle to him!

Epstein isn't just a "friend"; he is a facilitator. He is the social secretary for the ruling class. Chomsky wants to talk about the Oslo agreements? Epstein picks up the phone and gets the Norwegian diplomat who ran them. He wants to meet a former Israeli Prime Minister, a man whose record he's "studied"? Epstein arranges the meeting.

And they all sit around and have a "very fruitful discussion".

Chomsky is flattered by the attention. He's impressed by the "limitless curiosity" and "penetrating insights" of the man. He is so dazzled by the "provocative ideas" that he completely misses the material reality of the man's actions.

It's not that he didn't know. It's that, in the end, it didn't matter to him. The "intellectual stimulation" was worth the price of admission. It's a perfect, grotesque apologia for class power.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Within the framework of Chomsky's earlier anarchist leanings it makes sense that he would consider this access fruitful, because he would consider it useful to his writing and he considers his writing to be revolutionary activity.

I say earlier because I've questioned whether he still considers himself that since he started working with Vijay Prashad. Perhaps however Prashad is just another intellectual stimulating person to him though that scratches the itch of deep discussions. Prashad however is a far more revolutionary influence than a literal Mossad agent.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

he would consider it useful to his writing and he considers his writing to be revolutionary activity

It can be, just not the way he does it (lol). You have to actually write about real things, propose real solutions, and engage with real (revolutionary) movements which really act on those ideas. It's not revolutionary to write when your writing mainly opposes real revolutionary movements and incites others to oppose them as well.

I've questioned whether he still considers himself that

Oh my god, he's still alive. I thought he died recently?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Oh my god, he's still alive. I thought he died recently?

Not dead yet, just old af (96). Parenti is still ticking at 92 as well but has some alzheimers or dementia, I forget which. They've done well, judging by my family history I'll be lucky to see 70, if that.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not dead yet, just old af (96).

They gave him the fucking Kissinger medicine, lmao.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's fucking good stuff

we're going to kill the bourgeoisie and then everyone will live to be 69420 (mandatory)

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Parenti is still ticking at 92 as well but has some alzheimers or dementia

Man, that shit makes me so sad :(

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah. He's a giant.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Was that diplomat involved in Yemen? Because his name comes up in this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terje_R%C3%B8d-Larsen