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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Palestine As A Name Commonly Used Throughout Ancient History

First documented in the late Bronze Age, about 3200 years ago, the name Palestine (Greek: Παλαιστίνη; Arabic: , Filastin), is the conventional name used between 450 BC and 1948 AD to describe a geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River and various adjoining lands. This work explores the evolution of the concept, histories, identity, languages and cultures of Palestine from the Late Bronze Age to the modern era. Moreover, Palestine history is often taught in the West as a history of a land, not as Palestinian history or a history of a people. This book challenges colonial approach to Palestine and the pernicious myth of a land without a people (Masalha 1992, 1997) and argues for reading the history of Palestine with the eyes of the indigenous people of Palestine. The Palestinians are the indigenous people of Palestine; their local roots are deeply embedded in the soil of Palestine and their autochthonous identity and historical heritage long preceded the emergence of a local Palestinian nascent national movement in the late Ottoman period and the advent of Zionist settler-colonialism before the First World War.

  • Palestine, A Four Thousand Year History - - Nur Masalha Introduction

From Philistia To Provincia ‘Syria Palaestina’ (135 AD‒390 AD)

The administrative province of Roman Palestine During Roman rule in Palestine, and more specifically between 135 AD and 390 AD, Palestine became one of the Provincias of the empire. This is also a period from which many written records were preserved in a variety of languages – Latin, Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew –and also covered in the annals and texts of the new religion of Christianity. By this time the name ‘Palestine’ was more than a millennium old and had substantial currency. During the Roman period the official/administrative name of ‘Palestine’ was consolidated and popularised in Latin and Greek, which were the two lingua francas of the Roman Empire and Eastern Mediterranean. These two languages affected trade, administration, education, religion, architecture, diplomacy, coinage and key place names throughout the Eastern Mediterranean.

  • Palestine, A Four Thousand Year History - - Nur Masalha Chapter 3
[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org -5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There was a province surrounding Jerusalem called Judea (or Yehud province ) by the Babylonians, the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans. After the Bar-Kokhba-Uprising, the Romans called it Syria Palaestina. I‘m not trying to say who is allowed to live there and who isn’t. My initial point was, that I don’t believe Netanyahu is threatening to go to war with Europe, because there is no reason to.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who gives a dsmn Judea was destoyed. It no longer exists. Gaza exists, the west bank exists and is fully palestinian under international law

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Judea is a part of the country that is atm called Israel, just like California is a part of the US or Szechuan is a Part of China. I did not claim that Gaza doesn’t exist nor did I claim any „housing rights“ for anyone just based on the name of a province.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The hell are you talking about. I didn't mean to say that you deny the existence of Gaza but you seems to deny the existence of the west bank since Judea no longer exists it stop existing when Roman destroyed it and Netanyahu and many Zionists refer to the west bank as Judea.

It's like saying we should refer to Iran as Persia or the Chinese Turpan city as the destroyed city of Jiaohe destroyed by the Mongols . Your logic is so dumb . I am no longer surprised by settler colonial defenders like you

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org -3 points 4 days ago

I read a bit more about it and I didn’t know that „Judea“ is used as a propaganda term by Israelian right-wingers. I genuinely thought it was just the name of a region.