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Senate votes to END longest government shutdown in US history as rogue Democrats cave and join GOP
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this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2025
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THEY ARENβT FUCKING ROGUE. Schumer told them to be the fall guys in a meeting beforehand, since they either arenβt going to go for reelection or wonβt be for several years.
This is all nothing but a pageant for the masses.
exactly, even on reddit everyone knew it was schumer orchestrating it, as if he was against the shutdown from the beginning, and suddenly "he performatively opposes it" as to not catch flack. everyone knows how susan collins murowski does it too, same thing.
and yet Lemmy keeps slobbering over the Democrats as if they can do no wrong. While also dismissing the idea of third parties.
This shit is gonna keep happening until people finally stop voting democrat. It's the only thing that will change the course.
I dont think we've been reading the same Lemmy, everyone on here hates democrats and they hate republicans even more.
Reality is if you want to slow down facism you have to vote demovlcrat currently. If you want to stop it altogether you need to run for office yourself.
do you happen to have lemmy.world blocked? Most of the centrist shitlibs I've interacted with were from that instance, and before I blocked them I would say Lemmy was closer to a 50/50 split between leftists and blue MAGA.
I guess I have no idea
on dbzer0 they def have a lot of people who hate dems, but the rest of Lemmy is very much pro-democrats. Sure, they're mad about this vote, but most comms on Lemmy used to legit ban people who talked shit about the democrats last year. lol
They are starting to be more pissed now, but they are still very much "Vote Blue no matter who."
Oh they are MAD at democrats, they don't hate them. If they hated them, they'd push for third party. Most of lemmy is very anti-third party. It's getting better and they are starting to come around now, but before the election, if you mentioned third party, then Lemmy accused you of being a russian spy. lmao
I dont hate the idea of a third party, I just dont think its possible in the current political system. To have a third party you have to change the way voting works. That means you gotta get the people that have the power to change it to change it. Thats why they object to voting third party. And frankly, right now, until the system changes, a third party will never get traction. You need democrats who want third parties to work their way up through the system and change it.
Nah, people say that to make you not wanna vote third party. If everyone voted third party, then we'd have a viable third party.
You don't think a third party would get traction of everyone voted for it? Trust me, it'd get traction. People need to stop thinking it can't happen, or it will never happen. That's how you got Trump, by the way. Look at all the people who didn't even vote. Imaging if they would have voted third party. The numbers would prove that third parties are viable.
Dude, you gotta face it. People are afraid to take a risk. Every fucking election it's: "Oh sure, third parties would be awesome. But not THIS election. THIS election is too important. Next time!"
Every. Fucking. Election.
You keep on being afraid and scratching your head. I'll keep laughing at how the duopoly is failing you. :)
Let me know when that fantasy you described becomes a reality and I'll be happy to vote third party alongside you. Until then, I'm stuck voting for the least bad option.
Yeah, and while you keep voting for the least bad option, don't be mad when people like Trump win. Because that's the exact mindset that caused his win. I voted third party last election, so none of it's my fault! lol
Thats an interesting way to think of it. I think the complete opposite. I am actually one of the reasons Trump became president in 2016. I wasted my vote and voted third party in a swing state in 2016.
Voting for who you like, isn't a wasted vote. It's the point of voting. The duopoly wants you to be afraid to vote third party. That's how they stay in power.
You're falling for their fear. It's part of their plan.
Not me. I'll keep on voting third party. Every. Single. Time. :)
Probably not much a point in continuing as we seem to live in different realities here.
You enjoy losing. Every. Single. Time :)
Ok! You too! (How'd the last election work out for ya?) :)
Worked out well in 2020 and in 2022 (Governor), win some you lose some. 3rd party loses them all.
Yeah, but the difference is, I don't mind Trump winning, because you all deserve it for being spinless. So when I lose, I take pride in it because i wasn't afraid to vote for who I wanted to. :)
I spent election night laughing.
OK, sounds like you like losing, can't argue with that. Have a good one.
Nah, it's not that I like losing, it's that I'm not afraid of losing. Big difference. I vote for who I think is best for the job, not out of fear of who is worst for the job. :)
This is such a strange conversation. Do you really think you are some brave soul and everyone else is afraid to vote third party and isnt just being pragmatic?
I vote for the dems because they actually have a chance of winning and they are the least bad option. I'm not afraid, not sure why you keep saying that. Thats pretty much the end of it.
So you vote for people you think have best chance of winning. I vote for people who fit my values and who I want to be president.
Feel free to keep doing what you're doing and help prop up the Duopoly. That's EXACTLY what they want you to do. That's EXACTLY how they want you to think.
Not me, I'll vote for who I want to be president. Every time. That's pretty much the end of it.
I vote for who closest fits my values and has a chance of being president. With your strategy you might as well just vote for yourself.
Hmmmm, funny you mention that. I just so happen to have a little bit of experience with that. And I won (a while ago). So no, not all third party candidates lose. :)
I wouldnβt go that far. After all, look at how well MAGA Republicans got control of their party! We just need to do the same thing.
You have 2 parties. You literally can't see what's happening.
You don't have that luxury of a third party. That's a dead end idea atm
Despite this shutdown Dems are still better choice. Unless you can outvote both Dems and Republicans, you don't have much fucking choice.
Here is your bitter pill. Swallow it. Dems are still better than Republicans.
But you do need to hold them accountable at the ballot box. When they do this shit to you, you replace them asap. Protest the ones who are doing this.
But it's still better than Maga and the GOP
Fix your damn country, it's infecting everyone else
I DO have the luxury of a third party. I voted third party. In fact, people like you saying shit like that, is exactly why third parties don't take a strong hold. Because people are afraid.
Dude, if every person who had to hold their nose to vote democrate, actually picked third party, then it'd be an better option. But they don't because people like you scare them.
I'm not scared of you though. I proudly voted third party, and I'll proudly vote third party again. You don't scare me. The Repubs don't scare me. The Dems don't scare me.
I'm actually laughing at the people who voted dem, voted repub, and at the peopel who didn't vote. I did my part. :)
I'll never ever vote for the democrats. Ever. They are just the republican party in disguise and they have people like you sooo fooled. lol
And if you don't like our country, then you don't have to deal with us. Tell your country to ignore us. Do you your own thing. You don't need us. :)
You can't even get more than 30% of people to vote (or whatever the unhinged low percent is)
Tanks three head out of your ass if the Republicans don't scare you.
Look at what they have already done in less than a year. Less than a year!
What the ever loving hell is wrong with you people!
Yes know what nevermind. Just keep voting against your own self worth.
How many times has your third party win the election. Zero times? It's exactly zero times there has been a president that wasn't either a Republican or a Democrat in the last 150+ years (since Lincoln/Johnson)
You're just an operative of the Duopoly who wants people afraid so that the Duopoly stays in power.
So nah, fam. I ain't gonna fall for your propaganda. I'll keep voting third party! Thanks!
You deserve everything that your felon of a president is doing
I didn't vote for him. I voted third party. But all the people who voted for the duopoly do deserve everything he is doing. I'm laughing about it all. It's great! They keep worshiping the duopoly and acting like sheep. And this keeps happening. lol
You should be ashamed of yourself
Why would I be ashamed of voting for who I think should be in office? That's what democracy is all about. You're the one supporting a Duopoly who wants nothing to do with you.
They want you to act like your acting. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting them. Why don't you tell us the real reason you don't want things to change? Why don't you tell us what you get from having the Duopoly in power. They are all about wealth and power. And you support them in doing that. So why don't you tell us why you are afraid of choice?