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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Difference is the racially biased crime statistics produced in the US are the direct result of racially biased law enforcement and judicial systems, whereas the significantly higher rate of sex crimes and violence by men vs women is a verifiable fact substantiated by similar statistics in countries around the world. One is a lie, the other is not.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that over 80% of white homicide victims go unreported, or that over 80% of black homicide victims are made up by law enforcement, or that over 80% of black homicide victims are actually victims of white-on-black crime? No combination of those three seems remotely plausible.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US crime statistics are unreliable specifically in regard to race due to the extremely well documented presence of organized white supremacist groups in US law enforcement and the judicial system, you might want to do some reading and rethink what you consider plausible before attempting to discuss the topic

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's weak as hell. There is no credible evidence that completely refutes an 8x overrepresentation in homicide crime rates and victim rates. Now if you want to make an argument that this is really a division of class and not race, and the numbers only differ along racial lines because black people suffer much more economic hardship, sure i think thats a valid argument. But the numbers are still what they are. Over 12,000 black people died by homicide in the US in 2023 and they weren't all killed by the Klan and police officers.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Cool numbers you got there

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The other is also a lie if you consider the stigma against men for reporting sexual assault and abuse by women.

Statistics are only as good as the data included.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Underreporting of sex crimes by male victims of male assailants might possibly skew the ratio slightly, but underreporting by male victims also applies to male assailants, available evidence overwhelmingly indicates that men are more likely to commit sex crimes and violent crimes, and unlike biased racial statistics there's no evidence whatsoever for the same sort of individual and institutional motive to skew them. We have outright racists in law enforcement verifiably & deliberately targeting minority communities, we have no evidence to suggest similar for men vs women in regard to law enforcement/crime stats.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't get it, do you?

So long as there is a stigma on males reporting, or emotionally opening up, about assaults by females, then not a single gender statistic can be trusted, or used as an objective measure.

"Available evidence". Available evidence. Available is the key word.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between saying that violent/sexual crimes committed by women are underreported and claiming that the gap in reporting would come anywhere close to making up the difference in rates of commission of these crimes between men and women, the former is verifiably true and the latter is extremely not verifiable and almost certainly not true

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I absolutely believe the gap is virtually none-existent. If taken into account how basically no sexual assault is reported for men because nobody takes them seriously, and how even just looking at a woman can already be considered sexual assault, we have a monumental disparity in our society.

Giving any credence to statistics before this is solved compounds certain issues that shouldn't exist, and aids those with ulterior motives. If you adhere to these like you seem to, you're part of the problem.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Just looking at a woman can be called sexual assault" is a ridiculous assertion, legally inaccurate and indicative that you're either stupid or lying

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then you haven't been paying attention.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago

Anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo