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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They get their constituents back to work and get SNAP money flowing again

The cuts to the health care system are going to put some number of people out of work. They've also created a precedent by which Republicans can extract these enormous concessions through shut downs, a thing prior Dem coalitions had largely squelched.

Most importantly, we've identified air travel as a pain point felt most keenly by Senate liberals. As soon as the upper class is inconvenienced, through long lines at airports and pain felt by airline companies, the Democrats begin to fold in droves. The TSA is effectively a pressure point for the liberal elite and one that Trump will happily squeeze in the future to get what he wants.

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A couple points...

Hopefully the house doesn't fold, so the repubnicons don't get a precedent. Air travel hurts everyone, not just senate liberals. The higher class politicians don't even need to suffer TSA losses since private planes don't even use the TSA. Lastly, the house still has to fold, and I hope amongst hope that house Dems are bolstered by this betrayal. Remember, it was only 8 people who caved, and only for their legacies. From what I've read, none of them are even up for reelection, so it was 100% personal pride that drove them to give in to the traitors.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Air travel hurts everyone, not just senate liberals.

Less than half of the public travel by plane even once a year. Some 15% travel internationally. And your propensity to travel by plane is heavily determined by your wealth/income and your proximity to a major city. This is a problem that is heavily concentrated in the metro-poles.

The higher class politicians don’t even need to suffer TSA losses since private planes don’t even use the TSA.

Even the wealthiest Americans regularly use commercial airline services. Private chartered jets tend to be favored by corporate executives, because they can push off the cost of travel onto the corporate balance sheets. And even then, these private jets tend to function as mini-flying offices accommodating whole teams of people. They're as beholden to FAA as every other airborne vehicle and the FAA was also suffering from shortfalls.

Lastly, the house still has to fold

Very possible the House GOP "Double Down" Caucus tries to squeeze an extra turd out before this bill goes to Trump. Hell, its possible Trump vetoes the bill because he's in a nasty mood that day. But at this point, Republicans are operating as a unified caucus while Dems are fracturing. If the GOP does demand another pound of flesh, I question whether Democrats won't cave still further.

From what I’ve read, none of them are even up for reelection, so it was 100% personal pride that drove them to give in to the traitors.

I'm sure there's a bunch of money waiting for them on the backend of retirement.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago

The House only needs a majority, which the Republicans have. The House will absolutely fold.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

It won’t put people out of work. They will simply opt out of their healthcare plans. It will increase medical debt across the board and you will see a MASSIVE influx of patients into the ER because that’s the only place that will treat you and send you the bill afterwards