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(I didn’t know about any of this before this comment so apologize if I’m misinterpreting)
From what I read though, there were A LOT of angry people even because of the joke, weren’t there? I’m guessing they had to take a stance and went with the “killing is bad” to not get too politically involved. Which is still a coward move, but personally not something I’d boycott a game over.
What happened with Erika Ishii? Social media was being social media and I know that, but did Sucker Punch themselves do anything to contribute to that?
It was literally a joke about wondering if the killer would be named "mario". It was far tamer than what many of the chuds have said.
It was sheer and utter cowardice and abandoning the people who actually make the games that got them there. And when even god damned paramount reversed course with kimmel, the head of Sucker Punch doubled down on standing by their actions.
As for Ishii: "Social media was being social media" sums up how much you care on that front.
And THIS is why GTA6 will sell like hotcakes no matter what happens.
I didn’t minimize what happened. I just asked if Sucker Punch had any role in that since I wouldn’t boycott a game just because there’s assholes in its fanbase.
"We are responsible for what we say and what we do, not the interpretation others do out of them."
Please do not assume your understanding of the underlying argument has to be correct, or you'd risk falling to the strawman fallacy.
As a moderator I like to see arguments around games, but I don't want to see them degenerate into fight.
So could your rephrase without assuming your opponent intention without solid proofs?
Yeah, fuck off with that Steven Universe bullshit. It is fun to tell kids to do what is true to them and to not care about what anyone else says. Until they are an adult who thinks dressing up like a school shooter and making "I identify as an attack helicopter" 'jokes' is fun.
Intent is excuses and apologies. Actions are... actions. And if someone's take is that they totally get why sucker punch bent over backwards to protect chuds (at the expense of labor) and that they clearly don't give a shit about the massive waves of abuse thrown at a voice actress? I'mma gonna assume they are a chud. And, because I believe in judging people by their actions, I 'mma gonna call them a chud.
Does that mean they are a chud? Of course not. There is a LOT of room to apologize and make it clear they are actually an ally. A half-assed "no, I didn't do that" ain't it.
And... if you aren't an ally, you are an enemy. And a large part of allyship is doing what you can, no matter how small, to make people feel Seen and welcome. And when you have moderators siding with the people who don't really give a shit what kinds of abuse a genderfluid actress received for daring to exist while making DAMNED sure we understand why the company that left them out to dry is gonna protect the chuds?
So, on that note: Decide where you stand. But, by all indications, you might as well ban me now because I'm going to continue to call out chuds. And I'd hate for that to get in the way of the hype train and posting daily blog posts.