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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I also don't think it makes sense that people who haven't even taken history as a major, need to be taught each and every phrase that was used by a fanatic group.

A lot of these words, phrases and symbols tend to be taken from stuff that meant well in the past or even now. See swastika, svaha^[which I am not sure of the Nazi reference, but it was being chanted by people being portrayed as Nazis in a game].

Just knowing those terms, while might help prevent them from being used in accidental cases, is not as important as being able to recognise the pattern of peoples' actual actions.
Because a group that has copied stuff from other traditions, can always do that again with other sources, to replace that stuff.

It's important that out of history, we make sure to identify the part that we actually need to be against, which is the specific actions that cause grief back then, instead of just picking each and every unrelated thing, which any new group can simply replace, while also getting to keep the original grievous actions.
This is also to prevent us from getting our willpower drained from always getting outraged by multiple instances of minor similarities that are much more probable to be a false +ive, to have the power to push back when we find the actual problem creators.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which game may I ask? Was it in an occult setting? If yes then it was likely just a generic chant and has no fascist connotations beyond it. If not then I will have to see the scene in the game to dive deeper.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Metro: Last Light

It was some scene where the player find a Nazi-esque (I don't remember the exact faction name) hideout and watches a speech in progress.
The crowd listening to the speech was chanting "Swaha x3" after every line of the speaker, kinda like "Oorah".
He was probably hiding behind walls or inside some duct or sth after having escaped some torture chamber. Don't remember that very well either.
Also, it might have been something different but similar sounding. But seemed pretty close, to me.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh okay. Yeah they are just kinda going “hooah.” Svaha is a generic eastern occultist topic brought up every once in a while but has no fascist meaning beyong occultism. Metro Last Light is a Russian setting so the chanting is more muddled through the accent and translation.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 3 days ago

If I remember correctly, it actually sounds like "Su-Aha", which would be a valid way to break down "Svaha" in Sanskrit.