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Zohran's victory is very much overhyped in my opinon (Kind of a rant) (hexbear.net)
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Mind you, I'm biased since I'm not from the US, I'm Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I'm a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven't really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online "leftist" spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don't act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don't give me "Oh but the pipeline!!!1!". Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American "anti-capitalists" in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they'd probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

Don't forget to join a good org nearby you, read and organize folks!

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Modern conditions aren't spontaneously creating communists. Existing leftists are creating new leftists through education, and opportunities to educate are created by events. The conditions just make people more susceptible to the education, they do not perform the education.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say conditions are spontaneously creating communists, where are you getting that reading? My comment is about how a rupture can occur within the current two-party system and how that can lead to a viable third party that existing leftists may use as an opportunity to educate (I'm using your words for the highlighted bit, because in the event of realignment after a rupture, I'd hope leftists would do more than educate, they'd organize)

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apologies then, it came across to me as suggesting that things like Bernie weren't really responsible for the growth of the left, but instead simply the conditions. What I worry about is that people think the conditions are all there is to it. The conditions are creating the events, and the events are where the left grows. Bernie's near miss was a result of conditions. Zohran's win is a result of the conditions. The communist's job is to seize the moment and use it correctly. A lot of people seem to one to dismiss the moment rather than seize it though.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

It's cool, I understand your point and I agree honestly