El Chisme

I hope people don't dogpile you.

You aren't wrong but you also need to realize that it goes a lot deeper than elections. When liberal democracy (capitalism) runs dry on new resources and labor to exploit, this is the kind of thing that can be expected to happen.

I don't think the Democrats would give us this exact fuckery in 2025, however they've shown themselves to be completely incapable of resolving the problems that brought us to this moment. They are even anti-solution, just "things will get worse, but more slowly" vs "things bad now".

This was decades in the making and there's no easy path out of it for the US.

Sure, elections will always have consequences, but the problem with American elections in particular is that the parties have traded places every 4-8 years basically since FDR. The past 50 years, the Dems have been the kicking-the-can-down-the-road party and lost any sort of interest in actually fighting for anything. And now we're here. If we had a (D) president now then we would have an (R) in 2028 and this would all be moot anyways. American institutions have been rotting since at least Truman--it will take much much more than a few election cycles to get out of this pit. The Democrats are going the way of the Whigs at this point, inshallah.

Correct. If bloodless neoliberal ghouls like obamna and 99% of dems didn’t create a more conservative version of Romneycare, we might not be in this mess.

FYI hexbear doesn't have downvotes, like we literally can't downvote people. it's just that no one agrees with the sentiment you were expressing, that this is all somehow because the orange man is bad, somehow everything that is wrong with the foundations of our world were created by the orange man, rather thatn the logical, expected outcome based on the way things were before, and the way they were before that.

the consequences have been piling up for centuries

orange man is bad, but is everything america does and has done