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Sounds like they should work towards 3 shorter shifts and offer enough time for a proper patient handover rather than abusing staff for over half a day.
There are 8 hour lines too but no one wants them. 12 hour days means more days off. Most people either work 2 days, 2 nights, 5 days off, or 5 weeks of lots of shifts days and nights and then one full week off.
So they should offer 8 hours and comparable days off (or even better)
None of this 12 hour bullishit should be justifiable.
Then they’d need to raise her wage too which they won’t do. She’s already well paid for her position. The more she works, the more she makes. If they raised her pay and lowered her hours so she’d get the same paycheques that would be great, but definitely wouldn’t happen. She also enjoys working. Saving people’s lives is a very fulfilling job.
12 hours aren’t bad. If I could choose 12 hours 3 days per week plus a 4 hour day instead of five 8 hour shifts I’d take that easily. Or four 10 hour days. When you’re already working 8 hours, an extra 2-4 hours isn’t bad. I used to work 12-15 hour days when they’d let me, but then they started refusing overtime so I can’t do that anymore.
Yeah, they always sell the 12 hour shifts with the tag line, "You'll only be working 14/15 days a month!" It's true, and I love my 5 days off in a row, but there is a huuuuge difference in an 8 hour day and a 12 hour day when you're juggling the other necessities in your life, like kids, appointments, and emergencies.
I believe there's studies showing that fewer handoffs lead to better patient outcomes.
I know people who prefer 12 hours shifts. My partner is scheduled for 7-7:30 shifts. Including a half hour lunch break, that means there's a 30 minute handover window while still working 12 hours... in the end they get paid for when they are clocked in/out and not when they are scheduled.
There are some studies that show that having shifts shorter than 12h actually do more harm to patients than benefit since that means more turnover in each case and more disconnect between patient and medical professionals.
I've heard way crazier shifts, things like 36h shifts where I live years ago.
How much of a difference could there possibly be, regarding alleged patient harm, between 12hr and 10hr shifts?
You wouldn't do 10h shifts, you would do 8h shifts or you would have daily drift in shifts and that's horrible for workers.
As other people have written in this post, workers prefer 12 to 8 since there are less error and they get more vacation days.
Why? I'm literally asking why 10hr isn't even a possibility, it's all just 8 or 12 in here. Why wouldn't I do 10hr shifts?
because it doesn't add up to 24h. You propose two 10h shifts and one 4h shift? That sounds chaotic.
Overlap...?
double the nurses and doctors for 1h? Sounds like chaos idk.
Yeah you're right, just make everyone work 12 hr and then have to stick around longer (possibly without being paid for it) if anyone is ever even just a couple of minutes late. Makes so much more sense.
Or, I don't know, overlap them by 15 min? Who said it had to be an hour?
quoting the orignal msg:
Did you selectively ignore the part where they said that they punch in and punch out and are paid those 15 mins????
10h paid shifts. to overlap them consistently you do 8h turns with 1h overlap on each. it's the most logical way to overlap 10h shifts in my eyes idk...
In any case, if they are paid those 15 mins and workers aren't pissed with the 12h15m shifts, why do you care so much?