Replace God with aliens if you want to understand how I see these kind of statements. It's so very clearly the creation of an evolved ape supported by assertion.

[+] chobeat@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I assume you've never experienced the existence of God, which is a pity. Great experience. 10/10, would recommend.

I guess you've never experienced the existence of aliens, which makes the two experiences equivalent in their absurdity to you, but you should consider that the vast majority of people out there did experience God in a way or another.

[–] AshleyToAshes@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I did. On acid. Which made me even more adeist, which basically means I don't believe in deities and I don't call "god" "a god". And I don't believe, I know that the intelligent observer exists, I just don't give it a worship credit because worshipping is a "satanic" principle. All of the religions prove it. Universe and dimensions are too complex to dismiss the intelligence and a creation in the equation, but it doesn't mean we are obligated to build temples to it and call it a god and make fools out of ourselves and the creation. And we did exactly that. Why? There has to be some logic in our flawness and there surely is, we just don't understand it. I think that perfection reflects in the flawness and that our level of consciousness was needed so the force can reflect its perfection in our corruption. Paradise and hell are simple to explain, just take DMT and you will understand. Because we extract DMT as we die and death is just a trip. Will it be paradise or hell, depends on your ego and all the informations you gathered during life. So, if you, for example, killed people, DMT in combo with it will make your transition a hell. If you were NPC, you're stuck in the "purgatory", if you were good, you'll be able to release the ego and DMT will create a heaven for you. What's after that, fuck me if I know.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

DMT and the Church are both technologies to access the experience of God, with very different costs. I agree on the worshipping part, in fact I'm talking about experiencing God, not worshipping. Worshipping is a way to eventually experience God, it's not a consequence, at least within Christianity. Faith means trusting that through worshipping you will eventually have the experience of God, in a way or another.

Then if you prefer not to call it a God, that's fine, but you miss out on the fact that countless people in the past millennia were talking about the same thing you saw on DMT. The God of Spinoza, Mulla Sadra or Plato is not necessarily a God to worship.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good for you