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[–] entwine@programming.dev 100 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I installed Opera and used it exclusively.

Why do people use Opera? It's a proprietary Chrome fork owned by a Chinese company.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps for old time's sake. It used to be using its own engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presto_(browser_engine)

[–] unexpected@forum.guncadindex.com 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep. People have a bad habit of sticking to their habits beyond the point of usefulness. Myself included.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Chrome opera doesnt even resemble old opera. Vivadli is closer, and is led by the same guy that led old opera.

[–] jinwk00@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately still closed source

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There was a lot of BS advertising not long ago about it being a web browser "for gamers", whatever that means.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago

Gamers are easy to market to.

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Chinese company

??? It being Chinese has fuck all to do with Opera's issues.

And for anyone reading, just use Zen Browser, it is amazing.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 0 points 10 months ago

China has a law that force a company to give to the government all his data including user data

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US has NSLs. I expect China has the same. Better to avoid companies from such dangerously authoritarian regimes.

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

That doesn't mean much tho, because authoritarian is basically a buzzword. Every single state in existence is authoritarian by nature. I recommend the very short read "On Authority" by Engels. That being said, if you are worried about your data being used, specially for nefarious reasons, being concerned with the US having access to it is pretty valid since they are the country on earth that loves to invade and bomb anyone that dares breath wrong, but I can't see the same worry about other countries, specially China being very valid.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

There is a good chance that this guy is a bit counter-cultural and does not want to use the obvious version of anything.

Look at the Windows mail client he tried to go with.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i enjoy being spyed on by china. and before the whataboutisim, i dont mind that the US or Canada spies on me.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can also be spied on by me if you'd like to.

Just send your search queries to me.

For extra espionage, I'll even make sure to use non-privacy respecting search engines (like Google, Yandex, Baidu) and AI for your queries.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago
[–] tomiant@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago