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Not a vegan, but organic is really a marketing term more than anything, at least in the US. Organic farming isn't necessarily a more environmentally safe alternative to normal farming, especially since "organic" pesticides tend to also cause local environmental damage.
This is confusing for me. When I was growing up, it was in the aftermath of DDT and all that shit. Organic was what decent people started using to indicate that no awful pesticides like that were used. It wasn’t supposed to be marketing.
nowadays organic just means it doesn't use regulated pesticides, doesn't indicate any quality besides that
I don't know and don't care about the US, but at least in the EU this statement is false. The EU-BIO- Label doesn't regulate as much as it could, but it does regulate a lot more than just "no pesticides".
Oh, I'm in America, and it doesn't mean "no pesticides". it means no pesticides approved by the EPA. fuck knows what they're actually putting on there
That is not true.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program
There is a strong anti-organic community that will say this. There is a clear indication of what organic means on the website. It is not perfect, but waaaay better.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program