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Japanese Frieren fans ask themselves what Himmel would do.

American Frieren fans ask themselves what Himler would do

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I really don't get the confusion. The Frieren demons are as close to ontological evil as you can get while still having some of them be characters.

Of course you can always go a step more post-modernist and threat all characterizations of evil as war propaganda internal to the fiction. But I don't really get the vibe.

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I really don't get the confusion. The Frieren demons are as close to ontological evil as you can get while still having some of them be characters.

You just noted that being "ontologically evil" is contradictory to being a person and you are still confused? Why are you shocked that racists are running away with a setting were genocide and racism is "justified"?

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yes it is a justified-speciecide story in its text. Explicitly. As in the author is aware that the question would come up and answered it.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Frieren demons are as close to ontological evil as you can get while still having some of them be characters.

You understand that that's also a pretty good description of the way colonial powers depicted indigenous people, right? Like it's the real world way that people were convinced to commit atrocities against actual minority groups.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

As I've said, it's possible to read this as war propaganda internal to the story. I don't think that's the authorial intent at least with where the story has gone so far.

Of course critiques can go beyond authorial intent.