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Japanese Frieren fans ask themselves what Himmel would do.

American Frieren fans ask themselves what Himler would do

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Modern storytelling doesn't have a villain problem you just don't like the villains that are portrayed as objectively evil because they're usually the nobility in the fantasy setting or billionaires in the modern setting. Or like vampires or some shit which are just a stand-in for capitalists literally sucking the blood of the working class.

Objectively evil villains exist in many works you're just pretending they don't exist because the right are on the same side as those objectively evil villains.

The works that don't have objectively evil villains are not stories of good vs bad, they're usually something else entirely. Things like found family and other topics are pretty popular these days which is in fact one of the secondary threads of Frieren, the more interesting thread in fact. Found family for a being that lives hundreds of years and always outlives that found family is genuinely horrible.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Most of the time in more modern work, killing children children is regarded as bad. Frieren takes the brave stance that this is not so depending on the type of child. I agree that the rest of Frieren is more interesting and worthwhile.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The demon stuff, or even direct and violent conflict between two parties is the weaker side of Frieren. It's the character stuff and grappling with immortality, death and family that is interesting.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Agree, although the system of magic and the pacing of a battle as an event that practically lasts just 10-60 seconds due to the highly advanced level of magic is extremely appealing. The doctrine of battle is set beforehand and if you haven't really planned out a particular strategy for a particular problem you're toast. It's good.