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No I'm saying we're preparing for every possible contingency no matter how unlikely. You're talking like this is a certainty and we're unprepared for it.
You're not quite understanding the probability of an economic collapse of the US, the probability of the politcal collapse of the US, the probability of that leading to a civil war. These are far more likely scenarios than Trump convincing the US military to invade and ally without that resulting in the military turning on Trump, combined with the probability of our NATO (two of whom are nuclear powers) allies also abandoning Canada, countries like the UK which would've been fucked in WWII without Canada, along with a bunch of countries Canada liberated. I know as an American you think you single-handedly defeated the Nazis and all countries are beholden to you forever about it, but Canadians were flying over Britain in their darkest hour and Americans weren't. Whose side do you think Europe will take? This scenario is 99.9% an internet fantasy, but we'll be ready for that 0.1% anyway only because we have to plan for all possible contingencies. But you're going on like it's a certainty and it's very very far from that.
You think a guy like Carney doesn't have financial plans for the US? It's not in our interest to be the cause of a US financial collapse it's better for us if that happens on it's own, so Americans blame Trump for it.
Because you're exhibiting the American superiority that's the root cause of all of this mess. You think everything in the world has to revolve around the US, and can't accept the US not being the bestest most greatest nation in history. You are not the rulers of the world, if your country collapses we'll have a tough go of it for a few years, but we'll be fine. Probably won't even be as bad as the pandemic, and we got through that.
Im certainly not trying to exhibit American superiority while we discuss America imploding in different fashion, however; we do implode better than anyone. We are exceptional at self sabotage.
I’m just suggesting that the world is more interconnected than you are projecting. The collapse of the dollar and us foreign policy does hurt everyone.
I’m more open to the civil war idea than you are with the idea that the fascists just consolidate power unopposed. I’m just pointing out if they take over America they will probably make an attempt for you guys next. They will probably use the new power they have to interfere in your elections.
I’m just pointing out that we will more than likely invade other countries before we collapse. It’s in the fascist playbook and it’s in the current administration’s rhetoric. I am not your enemy. I am just some dude that lives in the fucking woods waiting for the feds to pick me up for thought crimes. I don’t support this mess, but the reality is pretty dark. Trust me I’m hoping we implode before we invade too.
I wouldn’t hide behind nationalism until that possibility raises its ugly head. That’s what we did in WW2…. So maybe you guys can come Canada would be comfortable for a while, but what about the rest of the world? You’re just gonna sit there and chill while we bomb Venezuela nonstop and hope we never turn to you?
It’s a very hopeful stance to sit right next-door and hope we implode versus fund the schemes through conquest.