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I've been thinking about this amped up conservative rhetoric that liberals and leftists hate America. We all know that's BS. Right? Except it's not, and we should respond to it for what it is.

"I love an America I grew up in. I love an America I believe in, that I lived most of my life in. Now, the idea of America that you're fighting and "winning" for is killing that America I live in, that I love. So you're right. I hate what you imagine America to be... because it is trying to murder the America that I love. And I don't use the word "murder" lightly, and I apply it to you. And if that means to you that I hate America... then you're right! The America you believe in isn't lovable."

That's all.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The nation state of America has been a nexus of reactionary violence from its moment of birth as a genocidal settler colonial empire to a foundational pillar of the transatlantic slave trade to its codified and then de facto apartheid which persists to this day. It has taken every opportunity to wield its power whether economically or militarily to squash every single instance of self-determination by the proletariat of the world that would threaten its systems of extractive oppression and violence, not blinking twice when engaging in the wholesale murder of civilian populations

So yeah don't put me in your tent. Maybe liberals still love America but you are grossly misinformed, misguided, and heavily propagandized