1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
Edit: You can also see a green light on the back of it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbzsW86X4qA&t=9286s a couple seconds after the start of the video. Also, keep watching. Dude is a fucking psychopath. It's weird to me that people can watch these clips and not see it.
Yes. The point is that there's a box that's on the collar. There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
I mean you can either see this stuff, or you can't. Obviously you can't. Watch the YouTube video in my edit, and if after you reach the point where Hasan makes a little self-satisfied grunt after she climbs sadly back onto her designated platform after he mean-mugs her, you want to still tell me he is a non abusive dog owner, then sure, you're welcome to your mistaken opinion about it I guess.
There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
Did you forget that GPS collars exist?
This is the first time I've ever heard the claim that Kaya wears a shock collar and the first time I've ever seen her yip like that. What I have seen is Hasan picking Kaya up to cuddle her because she's a big baby, Hasan reaching over to check his phone when he gets a notification, and Kaya roaming freely when she wants and often choosing to lie on her little bed in the stream room.
It seems very unlikely that this is a shock collar that Hasan uses the second Kaya gets up to stretch.
Also dogs will show through their body language when they're afraid of someone or something they're doing. There is no tucked tail, there is no head bowing, there is no averting eye contact.
Watched the timestamped video and it's Kaya getting up to stretch then lying back down. Not sure where the alleged shock collar clip is from. Also the vod is from three months ago. When I searched for a Reddit post someone commented under the VOD, it didn't bring me to the post they claimed exist, but the first result just so happened to be the h3 subreddit. And the entire front page of the subreddit just so happens to be everyone reposting the same clips and claiming Hasan shocks Kaya and coping about him almost saying she wears a shock collar when he obviously wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if this was from a Klein fanboy who found an old clip and spun up a story about it being a shock collar to give Hasan a week of drama to deal with.
Watched the timestamped video and it’s Kaya getting up to stretch them lying back down.
He literally cuts to total silence mid sentence and whips around to glare at her until she gets back on the platform, and then grunts to himself and has to regather his train of thought to keep talking about politics again.
Y'all are fucked. You are precisely the type of people in some small town church who refuse to believe repeated accusations of sexual abuse because "Oh he would never do something like that, you need to shut your mouth. That's Bill you're talking about. I never want to hear this trash again." Precisely. I'm honestly getting irritated about it.
The whole rest of your message has literally nothing to do with anything. I really don't care where the clips come from. Watch the clips. If you don't see anything fucked up about them, I don't know what to tell you and I hope no one in your area is getting abused by someone you think is "good people" and you have the chance to strategically overlook it because you don't want your view of that person to get complicated.
>people suddenly claiming hasan uses a shock collar on kaya to keep her in her bed to look pretty on stream
>look inside
>years of streaming but somehow only one clip of this
>look closer
>clip is from three months ago and only suddenly started circulating in the last 24 hours, particularly on a subreddit that has become pseudo-dedicated to hating on and smearing hasan
>look even closer
>clip is being spread by very strangely defensive people who immediately resort to calling you an abuser defender because hasan "glared" at kaya and "grunted to himself" before regathering his thoughts and thats evidence of animal abuse???
I've seen your type before you're just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
I’ve seen your type before you’re just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
Hold on, I need to switch to my account with the better profile picture
You guys could give MAGA a run for their money lmao
"Kaya! Please!" as if she's doing something wrong, when literally all she was doing was gingerly stepping off her platform. And he says "Go ba--" and then corrects himself to "Stop!" (stop what?) And then, of course after she suddenly yelps for some totally coincidental reason, I guess, she puts her tail down, bows her head, and avoids eye contact. And y'all are all out there like "It doesn't look like anything to me."'
Edit: I didn't even do this on purpose, this was just where my YouTube video was paused, right after she tried to get off the platform and Hasan did his record scratch and whipped around, and she slowly turned around and got back on the platform:
That's a vibration collar with an airbag next to it. He's demonstrating the functionality of the collar on stream right now and showing it light up and vibrate.
It is borderline unbearable to just keep scanning through this stream. He has literally spent half an hour now just whining about how unreasonable it is that people are concerned about this and talking down about how people aren't as qualified as he is about dogs.
Edit: 34:21 "... to go out on the trail or whatever, there are going to be instances where you can yell for her to come back, to do recall, but because she's so far away, she can't hear you. Okay? That's where the vibration collar comes in." I'm not a pro dog traininer but that sounds like the biggest load of shit I've ever heard.
37:04: "A shock collar is... like if you've ever used a TENS machine, it feels like ants. It's a TENS machine. That's what the sensation feels like. Okay? But it doesn't even matter, because that's not what she was, uh... that's not, like I don't have that anyway."
Okay that's about as much as I can stand. Mr. Kettle Logic is completely wrong. My sister has shocked herself with a shock collar to test for her dog when they got one of those invisible fences, and it hurts like hell. It's not like ants, otherwise it wouldn't do a damn thing. I'm not an expert in a lot of these things but I can confidently say that he is using this authoritative tone of voice to spout at least a certain amount of absolute horseshit.
If you want to give me the timestamp of when he shows this allegedly-the-same-collar-as-before collar, then sure, I'm a little bit curious I guess, but I'm pretty much done wanting to look into this at this point again for today.
Is there a way I can get this whole stream? I'm on twitch right now, interested to see his explanations, but I am curious to see the actual collar also. But I can't see how to rewind. Maybe I am just dense.
I would assume that a vibration collar is also a shock collar. Again maybe I'm wrong but I have not heard of a "vibration collar only."
Edit: Okay, I see it, they do exist as a non-shock option. He is saying that he didn't shock her, but she does have a vibration collar on. He was reaching off screen for his ZinTins (?), not for a remote.
Edit2: Okay, I see, I'm scanning through to see the actual collar rn.
Vibration only collars are pretty common for training. You can see the current stream vod by going to his stream profile and looking at videos, the latest one ("1 hour ago") is usually the current stream and will have anything up to around 5-10 minutes ago or so. Just skip to 45:30 and you'll see the collar. Shock collars need to have prongs like an inch long to reach through fur. He's holding the back of it with his thumb flat against it and there are no prongs. Shockers used for kink are also just repurposed dog collars, as the one I have has prongs and a spacer the company added since humans don't have fur. What he showed definitely doesn't have shocker prongs.
Also, if all vibration collars were also shock collars, then what would people who don't want to shock their dogs buy?
Edit: You can also see a green light on the back of it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbzsW86X4qA&t=9286s a couple seconds after the start of the video. Also, keep watching. Dude is a fucking psychopath. It's weird to me that people can watch these clips and not see it.
That image seems to not be on the video at all.
The point is that there's a box on the collar?
Yes. The point is that there's a box that's on the collar. There are no collars that come with big boxes with lights attached to them, that are not shock collars.
I mean you can either see this stuff, or you can't. Obviously you can't. Watch the YouTube video in my edit, and if after you reach the point where Hasan makes a little self-satisfied grunt after she climbs sadly back onto her designated platform after he mean-mugs her, you want to still tell me he is a non abusive dog owner, then sure, you're welcome to your mistaken opinion about it I guess.
Did you forget that GPS collars exist?
This is the first time I've ever heard the claim that Kaya wears a shock collar and the first time I've ever seen her yip like that. What I have seen is Hasan picking Kaya up to cuddle her because she's a big baby, Hasan reaching over to check his phone when he gets a notification, and Kaya roaming freely when she wants and often choosing to lie on her little bed in the stream room.
It seems very unlikely that this is a shock collar that Hasan uses the second Kaya gets up to stretch.
Also dogs will show through their body language when they're afraid of someone or something they're doing. There is no tucked tail, there is no head bowing, there is no averting eye contact.
Watched the timestamped video and it's Kaya getting up to stretch then lying back down. Not sure where the alleged shock collar clip is from. Also the vod is from three months ago. When I searched for a Reddit post someone commented under the VOD, it didn't bring me to the post they claimed exist, but the first result just so happened to be the h3 subreddit. And the entire front page of the subreddit just so happens to be everyone reposting the same clips and claiming Hasan shocks Kaya and coping about him almost saying she wears a shock collar when he obviously wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if this was from a Klein fanboy who found an old clip and spun up a story about it being a shock collar to give Hasan a week of drama to deal with.
He literally cuts to total silence mid sentence and whips around to glare at her until she gets back on the platform, and then grunts to himself and has to regather his train of thought to keep talking about politics again.
Y'all are fucked. You are precisely the type of people in some small town church who refuse to believe repeated accusations of sexual abuse because "Oh he would never do something like that, you need to shut your mouth. That's Bill you're talking about. I never want to hear this trash again." Precisely. I'm honestly getting irritated about it.
The whole rest of your message has literally nothing to do with anything. I really don't care where the clips come from. Watch the clips. If you don't see anything fucked up about them, I don't know what to tell you and I hope no one in your area is getting abused by someone you think is "good people" and you have the chance to strategically overlook it because you don't want your view of that person to get complicated.
>people suddenly claiming hasan uses a shock collar on kaya to keep her in her bed to look pretty on stream
>look inside
>years of streaming but somehow only one clip of this
>look closer
>clip is from three months ago and only suddenly started circulating in the last 24 hours, particularly on a subreddit that has become pseudo-dedicated to hating on and smearing hasan
>look even closer
>clip is being spread by very strangely defensive people who immediately resort to calling you an abuser defender because hasan "glared" at kaya and "grunted to himself" before regathering his thoughts and thats evidence of animal abuse???
I've seen your type before you're just here to argue on the internet because your mom missed her alarm to pick you up from school and you have 30 minutes to kill until she gets there. Remember to drink water throughout your day and brush your teeth before bed kiddo.
Hold on, I need to switch to my account with the better profile picture
You guys could give MAGA a run for their money lmao
"Kaya! Please!" as if she's doing something wrong, when literally all she was doing was gingerly stepping off her platform. And he says "Go ba--" and then corrects himself to "Stop!" (stop what?) And then, of course after she suddenly yelps for some totally coincidental reason, I guess, she puts her tail down, bows her head, and avoids eye contact. And y'all are all out there like "It doesn't look like anything to me."'
Edit: I didn't even do this on purpose, this was just where my YouTube video was paused, right after she tried to get off the platform and Hasan did his record scratch and whipped around, and she slowly turned around and got back on the platform:
Did you watch my YouTube video with the mean mugging?
That's a vibration collar with an airbag next to it. He's demonstrating the functionality of the collar on stream right now and showing it light up and vibrate.
Do you have a timestamp for showing the collar? I'm looking at this:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2586575954
It is borderline unbearable to just keep scanning through this stream. He has literally spent half an hour now just whining about how unreasonable it is that people are concerned about this and talking down about how people aren't as qualified as he is about dogs.
Edit: 34:21 "... to go out on the trail or whatever, there are going to be instances where you can yell for her to come back, to do recall, but because she's so far away, she can't hear you. Okay? That's where the vibration collar comes in." I'm not a pro dog traininer but that sounds like the biggest load of shit I've ever heard.
37:04: "A shock collar is... like if you've ever used a TENS machine, it feels like ants. It's a TENS machine. That's what the sensation feels like. Okay? But it doesn't even matter, because that's not what she was, uh... that's not, like I don't have that anyway."
Okay that's about as much as I can stand. Mr. Kettle Logic is completely wrong. My sister has shocked herself with a shock collar to test for her dog when they got one of those invisible fences, and it hurts like hell. It's not like ants, otherwise it wouldn't do a damn thing. I'm not an expert in a lot of these things but I can confidently say that he is using this authoritative tone of voice to spout at least a certain amount of absolute horseshit.
If you want to give me the timestamp of when he shows this allegedly-the-same-collar-as-before collar, then sure, I'm a little bit curious I guess, but I'm pretty much done wanting to look into this at this point again for today.
Is there a way I can get this whole stream? I'm on twitch right now, interested to see his explanations, but I am curious to see the actual collar also. But I can't see how to rewind. Maybe I am just dense.
I would assume that a vibration collar is also a shock collar. Again maybe I'm wrong but I have not heard of a "vibration collar only."
Edit: Okay, I see it, they do exist as a non-shock option. He is saying that he didn't shock her, but she does have a vibration collar on. He was reaching off screen for his ZinTins (?), not for a remote.
Edit2: Okay, I see, I'm scanning through to see the actual collar rn.
Vibration only collars are pretty common for training. You can see the current stream vod by going to his stream profile and looking at videos, the latest one ("1 hour ago") is usually the current stream and will have anything up to around 5-10 minutes ago or so. Just skip to 45:30 and you'll see the collar. Shock collars need to have prongs like an inch long to reach through fur. He's holding the back of it with his thumb flat against it and there are no prongs. Shockers used for kink are also just repurposed dog collars, as the one I have has prongs and a spacer the company added since humans don't have fur. What he showed definitely doesn't have shocker prongs.
Also, if all vibration collars were also shock collars, then what would people who don't want to shock their dogs buy?