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Right there I have said they have had THEIR EFFORTS mocked. Are you able to distinguish mocking an organization vs mocking the things they do without thought to organization, simply actions that are not agreed with, and how that can be said to be mocking the efforts of organizations that do them? It happens all the time. You also have not posted sources for you claims that revolutions have massive support.
Yeah, I think you are right here. Especially since you are still misreading one of the first things I said to you, I honestly do not think you operating completely in good faith because of this.
I understand what you're saying, and I'm not misreading you. You say their efforts are mocked, but you don't actually know what their efforts actually are to make that claim. I know that you're trying to say people are being hypocritical by supporting PSL while disavowing their what their actual actions are when sepparated from that context, but you've got it flipped, people support their actual actions and that's why they support them, and you're confused on what they actually are.
Secondly, you had clear numbers, it shouldn't be hard to find a source for them. Socialist countries have overwhelming support, polling is consistent, and most that lived in the USSR want it back. Revolution cannot succeed without overwhelming support of the masses.
I am operating in good faith, just because we seem to be at an impasse doesn't mean either of us is bad-faith. Not all disagreements are a result of one party being bad-faith.
I didn't say I suspected bad faith for disagreeing.
Revolutions are different than the governments they produces decades later. The Bolshevik revolution, for example, did not come anywhere close to overwhelming support when it was happening.
The October Revolution was supported by the many workers and peasants, they didn't exactly hold a census beforehand but it only succeeded because of mass support.