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Nobody here is conflating Judaism with Israel. We all know those are two different things. What we are doing is looking at polling about support for Israel among Jews and the result is not good.
Look up national depression polls. You’ll see the results change entirely based on who is doing the study. You really think most jews are on board with this shit? But you’ll still say zionism is different from judaism?
Fuck you people. This isn’t leftism.
I don’t need to be lectured on what is and isn’t leftism by someone caping for Zionism because of some polls you don’t like the outcomes of.
Guess what. I’m lecturing and you’re reading it. Because you’re fucking wrong. You aren’t a leftist. I am not a zionist. The destruction of Israel would give me greater peace of mind and hope for the world than anything else could at this time other than the completion of the Eurasian trade-belt. But one isn’t coming before the other, shithead. You and all your race/ethnicity obsessed friends are going to turn into liberals when you get older like you always fucking do. You aren’t leftists. You’re fucking shills.
Shills for what? Talk about trigger worded bullshit. How do you think the wider Jewish community would feel about the destruction of israel and the redistribution of the land to its previous inhabitants?
The Jews and not the Zionists? Pleased as fucking punch. Considering the Jews inside Israel who were there before the Nakba who are all Pro-Palestine and have been confined to a Warsaw Ghetto for it.
You’re fucking regurgitating imperialist propaganda with leftist-adjacent dialogue. Like a liberal.
Is this wish time? How long does this go on for?
I’m sorry you don’t like what the opinions of the diaspora are and if you say evangelical christians are a much bigger problem I would agree, but you really should stop making shit up because it makes you feel better.
My entire point to him is that there isn't much of a difference between evangelical christians and jews who are religiously indoctrinated since a young age to believe in zionism. That is what I was trying to explain before I got the fucking ignorant "I don't read pbbbt"
By “Jews who believe in zionism” do you mean the vast majority?
That's why I'm comparing them to fundamentalist Christians who believe in similar, harmful ideologues. Not quite the same but there's a comparison to be made.
Yeah I mean Zionist evangelicals are a lot more harmful
Material conditions as always, comrade. Someone who was horribly sexually abused in a catholic church might disagree as they have no relation to Israel. Someone in Palestine would say otherwise.
In terms of objective evil? Well, I'd almost say they are competing for each-other. It's hard to argue when they rely on each other while despising each other. I would say that Israel wouldn't exist in the capacity it does without the rabid, evangelical Christian base with their temple prophecy shit in the U.S backing them without question. Or the long history of Christian atrocities, which has been around longer than Zionism.
But you could be right too. This genocide has a lot of collaborators.
And now we get back to the root, what evidence do you have that Jews and Zionists are majority mutually exclusive?
oh come on now, I don't agree with this person but its ridiculous to imply they're being paid to spread zionist talking points on hexbear of all places
something you might not realize or a lot of people realize is that a solid chunk of Christians believe in the fascist/fundamentalist ideologues of catholic/protestant garbage. From the inherent calvinism in American culture, to topics such as abortion, evolution, etc. There are reasonable ones, just like there are reasonable Jews and those who aren't zionist. There's plenty.
It doesn't change that a overwhelming amount of Christians/Jews believe in those types of fundamentalist ideologues. Either it's about a holy land or that woman should be kept as incubators for half-dead children to be born. To even things more mild, like telling the victims of the atrocities of capital or their own religion that "God will be with them" to toothlessly placate them or offer them therapy when the state fails to offer any that draws them deeper into the tendrils of organized religion. Perhaps, it's something to do with fundamentalist religion than you just screeching about us being rightoid jew-haters?