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[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Quoting crime statistics based on gender:

Quoting crime statistics based on race:

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Quoting crime statistics based on race, like the old "13/50" trope, is often used to enforce racist notions that minority groups are inherently bad people. It's punching down at marginalized people.

This meme, at least as I see it, is the opposite. It's satirizing the usual crap from the anti-feminist crowd claiming that women are inherently inferior. It's punching up at sexist men.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

So....statistics are only valid when they promote your ideals?

Or is it that, in your mind, the stats that don't run parallel with your ideals have obviously been misinterpreted or fudged?

Just trying to figure out your stance on statistical data.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Stats are valid when they are used in the proper context and are not being misrepresented. For example, Black and Native American people account for a disproportionate number of drowning deaths in the US. But it would be irresponsible to simply conclude that those groups are inherently bad swimmers. Just like the way the 13/50 trope is irresponsibly used to imply non-whites are inherently more prone to criminal behavior.

All that aside, this meme isn't attacking men. It's attacking sexist tropes used against women.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago

All that aside, this meme isn't attacking men. It's attacking sexist tropes used against women.

Nah, it's a sexist joke. But it's funny because "Haha, men bad".

It's equivalent to making a joke like this: "Men do care about their feelings. Feeling their dick being sucked"

[–] garth@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Statistics are just numbers. What matters is how they are used. Anyone who has studied stats knows that it's common to craft misleading conclusions from real data.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works -3 points 7 hours ago

So what is the "right" way to use them?

So long as they are helping the "downtrodden"* it's ok to see the numbers differently?

I have studied statistics. In my studies I learned that numbers do not lie, people lie. And, as was stated before, people can manipulate numbers to match their narrative.

I've seen studies published as "fact" just because the author manipulated the numbers to match their findings.

This is what we should base our outlook on?

*in this instance, "downtrodden" refers to the person or group deemed savable by those who are looking to be a savior.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You only have one countrr argument, dammit and you're going to use it!

It's specious and fallacious but it's all you've got!

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Holding up a mirror to your own hypocrisy.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not even close there captain fallacy

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh? then let me make a counter-joke so you get the point.

"Want to be equal to whites. Can't stop being the majority of murderers, by capita."

With a black guy sitting there.

Do you think that is funny?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Always gotta go to the black guys, don'tcha

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Your attempts at false comparisons? Buddy it's laugh or cry