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Antivax types are all anti pushing vaccine on to people but if they don't want to get vaccinated then it still won't affect vaccinated folks. From my rough understanding, getting vaccinated keeps you alive or get less severe symptoms, but you can still pass it on.

So if antivax people don't get it, then why not just let them die?

Edit: posted to !askscience@lemmy.world too because I just found out that existed

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Should critical-thinking be taught in education?

It's the same principle, mandatory-input-into-population overriding self-centered-"freedom"-that-competes-against-the-worth-of-the-commons..

Should YOU have any right to decide what the billions-of-cells-in-your-body eat?

XOR shouldn't your body's cells have THEIR rule overriding you, individual-cellular-freedom, etc..

It's the same paradigm-question, just at a different scale.


Obviously, you're going to hold that YOU have the right to override tissue-preferences within your body ( so you have the right to outright-exterminate any growing cancer within your body ),

but you may hold that rights stop with the individual, & the population has zero rights to its viability..

That is a rather Western narcissism that just doesn't fly in traditional-tribal-cultures, which were the normal human-culture for the .. perhaps million .. years before our agriculture created guilds/castes/monarchy-oligarchy/feudalism.


Crack the question's principle, & then you have an answer which is right at all scales.

Decide instead that YOU are the only-valid-scale for all questions, & then you have the right to butcher-the-whole-for-sake-of-narcissistic-gain, while simultaneously deciding that within-your-body, no subset has any right to rule for its own sake, only YOU have the right to rule: contradictory-law at different scales, iow.


IF the overall-benefit is greater than the rights of the individual, THEN one aquires the responsibility to differentiate between institutions gaslighting about operating for the overall's benefit ( while really operating for their-own-institutional-benefit, at the cost of the overall ), vs those who actually are operating for the overall-benefit:

the complexity goes up, the number-of-dimensions-of-corruption goes up, but the potential-gain goes waaay up, if one gets it right.

( airliners are not "mere opinion" or "mere belief": they actually work, & they actually work because of collaboration, teamwork, economic-organization, diverse-contributions, etc.

The same is true of research, of fitness, of culture, etc.

Collaboration can produce MASSIVELY greater results, & that is also true when collaboration eradicates the rapid-spread of diseases/plagues, simply because not enough are getting infected, per day, to amplify the spread, see? )

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