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[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you'll be in trouble if you somehow didn't take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't like that either. People shouldn't be penalized for not taking vacation. That's just a different form of taking away their choice.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like someone with no workforce experience whatsoever.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like a manager, looking to control how people handle their vacation time. "Workers get punished for taking vacation" and "workers get punished for not taking vacation" are two sides of the same coin. Personally I'm in favor of "workers can do whatever they want with their PTO without fear of repurcussion".

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social -1 points 17 hours ago

It's not about punishment. If time off is optional than it's a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's stupid. Are you mad that they don't let you work when the office is closed too?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

I take every minute of PTO time allocated to me. I am not so arrogant that I believe others should be punished for making different choices, though.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Well you could work on vacation but it's usually paid 2-4 times per hour. So it depends on your employer willing to pay that much.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have no desire to work on vacation. I have no desire to work at all, I only do it because i.enjoy having food and a place to live. But I don't believe in punishing people for victimless crimes. They're not hurting anyone but themselves by letting their PTO expire, leave them alone.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They don't punish workers, they fine employers for not following laws.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

Oh ok. That's fine then.