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Why I don't usually bring it up, especially since I dont like fighting with Chinese comrades

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

it's possible but the nuclear bombs at the time were nothing compared to today's arsenal. They still destroyed an entire city and (most everyone) in it. Here's more modern bombs though:

That's also the thing with nuclear bombs, you can't run away or hide from them. You barely have time to see one before it hits, because they detonate far above the ground. your survival hinges entirely on luck and being kilometers away from the blast radius. 70,000 died from just one "tiny" bomb by today's standard. What if the US launched 3 Tridents? Or 5, or 10?

You can also visualize a detonation on this tool: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

[–] Comprehensive49@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately, cities are a lot larger and made of concrete now, so they don't get destroyed as easily as Hiroshima/Nagasaki, which were mostly wood.

Even dropping China's average nuke megatonnage (600kt) in the middle of New York City only glasses 1/4 of the city, which is kind of a problem for China in a nuclear exchange scenario.

I will relink my previous post on this: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5407827/4903187

TLDR: While one US nuke can kill hundreds of thousands of Chinese due to China's high population density, 1 Chinese nuke can only kill ~10,000 USians on average because houses in the USA are way too spread out. Thus China needs way more nukes than currently, at least 10K would be a good start, with about 30K nukes needed to fully glass the USA.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how far away and how many people would be affected by fall-out, today?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

According to the map simulator the nuclear fallout only seems to happen at surface detonation with modern bombs. I couldn't tell you if it's accurate and what the science behind it is, but a bomb would most likely be detonated in the air to maximize casualties, it's just that much stronger.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The increased power of modern bombs actually causes less fallout because more of the fissile material is detonated by more efficient modern weapons.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

I still don't think they're ok.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I can't begin to imagine, especially with weather variables, wind, rain, etc.