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That is a spicy take, but I agree. Anyone who looked at Trump and Biden/Harris and expressed things like "Biden is kinda old' or 'I don't like Harris' position on Gaza' fucked everything up.
We didn't get a democratic primary for this election, so we were in a place where we had a single option... it was Biden, up until it wasn't, and then it was Harris. IN ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY ANY CASE, either of those two would have been better than Trump. Anyone who held off voting for them or stayed home out of some relative-to-fascism-minor-issue -- or worse, voted for trump out of either approval or to 'send a message' -- ruined it for everyone.
If you're reading this comment and annoyed by my tone, just re-read the meme. This will very likely happen and we warned you. The people in power right now will never give it up and are actively dismantling the ways to stop them.
Trump is pushing right now to make us revolt and be violent so that he has an excuse to take even more power; to declare martial law or send in his pet police force or similar, even if it's a tenuous reason, and we've seen how the people who should stop him will just roll over out of fear. This was all blueprinted in Project 2025. They told us what they would do and are actively doing it.
I don't know if the folks suggesting legal, passive, protest responses are right or if we need to organize and fuck shit up right now like the ones stating that a revolution is the only way to stop this. I'm just a dude with a family and I'm part of the problem. I think our collectively meek response is going to be the end of the USA.
Empires fall. The USA as we know it is likely over but dictatorships also end, and there's a likelihood that something will rise from the ashes.
I will be very happy to look back at this post in 20 years and think about how I was wrong and catastrophizing.
You consider genocide minor compared to fascism?
No, I don't. They are both horrible. Way to pick a single issue -- which I'm sure is important to you -- and make it the whole thing, but many attacks were lobbed at Kamala, from her gender, race, her history against crime, to her unwillingness to support Palestine.
In the context of USA politics, but also what seems to be the whole world's fall into chaos, we keep choosing the worst options instead of the not perfect ones.
I'm pro-Palestine. I would love for my country to support Gaza, but, and sorry for shouting here:
IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD DOES DONALD TRUMP RESPECT PALESTINIANS MORE THAN KAMALA. IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD DO YOU SEE HIM MAKING THINGS BETTER THAN SHE COULD HAVE.
This is the absolute worst take. She could have been terrible for Gaza, but we already knew he would be. In the context of the US election, there's no case for refusing to vote for Kamala over trump if you're hung up on this issue. You are exactly the problem I'm mad about. Do you not understand how tearing her down hurt everyone? How continuing to focus on this one issue to the detriment of all others prevents us from being able to actually talk about it because the children in the room get elected?
Yes, complain about the US stance, and I'm with you. Publicly deride the better option because it's not perfect and you have people sit out the election because of both sides and you will see that the worst parts of humanity win instead.
You're just as bad as the Epstein Files meme folks. Yes, it's an important issue, but making it the ONLY issue prevents conversation on any other topic. And to hold off the Epstein people: We already know who is in the files, we don't NEED the confirmation. The fact they won't release them implicates the people in power. You think another felony conviction is going to stop him/them?
The time to vet US politicians is in a primary... again, we didn't get one this time. When the time comes to choose who is better or worse for yourself or the world, though, you vote for the least bad option.
And I think perhaps the end result is that yes, I think fascism is worse than genocide because I think it's a precursor. The US is aiding a genocidal country right now (for reasons that I don't understand, there seems to be a ton of pro-Israel sentiment), but is not the acting force there, that's Israel. Right now, on my land, the US is trying to move towards genocidal tendencies against it's own people: see ICE deportations and hostility. This is a direct result of choosing trump over basically anyone else.
Editing to add: I think this a bait I keep falling for. Anyone responding to a serious post with a single sentence is a troll. I'm hoping to inform others who might feel like zark but didn't post what they did rather than discuss with them.
You're doing great don't second guess yourself.