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Real question:
Anyone know which phone brands/manufactures are made 100% in China for Chinese population consumption primarily and 1) work in NA and 2) are easily set to English as the UI language?
I figure it may be better to just accept whatever possibility of backdoors Chinese intelligence may build into their electronics as opposed to western (mainly Israeli and US) intelligence backdoors.
I've seen some brand recommendations in the past but figured some of you nerds might have some knowledge on such things. My understanding is it's sometimes difficult to get the phones connected on NA (US) providers.
Maybe look into a Pixel and install GrapheneOS. It's not Chinese, but still a good compromise I think.
This is the recommended method by Richard Medhurst, specifically a Pixel because they have better hardware security (latest tech). Chinese manufacturers don't prioritize or worry about security at all, it's apparently just not a priority for them.
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Who is Richard Medhurst? And why is google the one at the forefront of safe hardware??
Edit: Because I want to get a new phone, but having Google hardware seems like too much of a cognitive dissonance for me, and I'd prefer sticking to smth Chinese, ideally.
I agree with your impression, but apparently it's really the best. With grapheneOS though and anything from google wiped, you only want the pixel for the hardware. Medhurst is an investigative journalist who covers palestine among other things. He is/was sometimes on Iran Press TV. I don't think he's an op because he's been harassed by the police several times, had his equipment seized etc.
Your phone still connects to a cell tower, satelites and even other devices when you want to use it and chinese manufacturers don't worry about security because it's not a worry in China, so the hardware doesn't have any of these features. according to him at least.
Exactly. I understand the confusion from some people who aren't as technical but thinking a Chinese phone is safer just because it isn't from an American company is not how any of this works. None of them have even remotely comparable hardware safety features than an iPhone or a Pixel does. That's not me saying Chinese phones are bad, it's just that it's not a concern in China.